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Replied on: 07/02/2007 13:12:11
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Replied on: 07/02/2007 20:02:25
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Replied on: 07/02/2007 20:42:04
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Replied on: 07/03/2007 10:00:20
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Replied on: 07/03/2007 13:49:49
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Replied on: 07/03/2007 14:55:29
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Replied on: 07/03/2007 15:33:13
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Replied on: 07/03/2007 15:44:11
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Replied on: 07/03/2007 16:21:47
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 07/03/2007 16:44:37
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Reply author: toga
Replied on: 07/03/2007 17:10:19
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quote:
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Replied on: 07/03/2007 17:19:04
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Replied on: 07/03/2007 23:19:55
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Replied on: 07/04/2007 03:52:09
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Replied on: 07/04/2007 12:53:42
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Replied on: 07/04/2007 13:39:16
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Replied on: 07/04/2007 13:50:28
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Replied on: 07/04/2007 14:08:13
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Replied on: 07/04/2007 14:29:43
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 07/04/2007 14:51:46
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Replied on: 07/04/2007 18:52:54
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Replied on: 07/04/2007 21:07:58
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Replied on: 07/05/2007 04:14:54
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Replied on: 07/05/2007 10:19:29
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Replied on: 07/05/2007 11:40:59
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Replied on: 07/05/2007 12:07:32
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Replied on: 07/05/2007 12:39:49
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 07/05/2007 13:25:04
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Replied on: 07/05/2007 13:30:42
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Reply author: SOCOM
Replied on: 07/05/2007 16:50:09
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Reply author: BWS
Replied on: 07/05/2007 17:31:17
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quote:
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 07/05/2007 20:42:56
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Reply author: blackknight
Replied on: 07/05/2007 21:51:25
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Replied on: 07/05/2007 22:33:47
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Replied on: 07/06/2007 14:27:42
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Reply author: ³°¾Ô«Î¤p¨B§L
Replied on: 08/17/2007 10:50:32
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quote:
Originally posted by SOCOM

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Reply author: zeek
Replied on: 08/17/2007 16:23:26
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Reply author: zeek
Replied on: 08/26/2007 10:40:18
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Reply author: BWS
Replied on: 08/26/2007 13:19:57
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 08/26/2007 16:39:53
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Reply author: zeek
Replied on: 08/26/2007 20:22:13
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Reply author: LUMBER
Replied on: 08/26/2007 23:31:35
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Reply author: zeek
Replied on: 08/27/2007 17:38:20
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Reply author: CPWN
Replied on: 08/27/2007 17:48:27
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quote:
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Reply author: GMM
Replied on: 08/27/2007 23:25:14
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Replied on: 08/28/2007 12:06:04
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Replied on: 08/28/2007 13:05:41
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Reply author: zeek
Replied on: 08/28/2007 15:56:25
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quote:
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http://mainbattletanks.czweb.org/Tanky/amx40.htm


Reply author: hawkeye
Replied on: 03/24/2008 21:28:40
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 03/25/2008 07:55:43
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Reply author: Alien
Replied on: 03/25/2008 11:44:21
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quote:
Originally posted by hawkeye

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Reply author: CPWN
Replied on: 03/25/2008 12:26:47
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quote:
Originally posted by dasha

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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 03/25/2008 12:32:08
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quote:
Originally posted by CPWN

quote:
Originally posted by dasha

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many French tanks have a known problem that, because they are too lightly built, they have weak structures and easy to have cracks/fatique on materials after a few years of use......
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and not to mention that French gear box and transmissions are usually one of the worst among Weastern tanks.........

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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 03/25/2008 13:46:16
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Reply author: Alien
Replied on: 03/26/2008 12:27:38
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quote:
Originally posted by dasha

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MDC is the best!


Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 03/26/2008 12:56:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Alien

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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 03/26/2008 13:08:25
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quote:
Originally posted by dasha

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then how come most military analyst ( except those from frence) all rate Leapord I much better than AMX-30????


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Reply author: toga
Replied on: 03/26/2008 15:24:05
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quote:
Originally posted by dasha

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Reply author: CPWN
Replied on: 03/26/2008 15:53:55
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Best guess¡A²q±o¯u¦nXD

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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 03/26/2008 16:43:55
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Replied on: 03/26/2008 23:27:47
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Reply author: alex5201017
Replied on: 03/27/2008 05:31:13
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 03/27/2008 07:59:21
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Reply author: alex5201017
Replied on: 03/27/2008 08:50:24
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 03/27/2008 09:07:54
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quote:
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Replied on: 03/31/2008 18:13:55
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Replied on: 03/31/2008 20:39:57
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Replied on: 04/01/2008 00:31:57
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Replied on: 04/01/2008 09:05:23
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 04/01/2008 13:05:42
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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 04/01/2008 13:40:32
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Replied on: 04/01/2008 13:43:00
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Reply author: BWS
Replied on: 04/01/2008 21:42:06
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Replied on: 04/02/2008 13:21:34
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Replied on: 04/03/2008 00:01:26
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Replied on: 04/03/2008 00:03:46
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Challenger 2 is equipped with an 120 mm/ 55 (in barrel length) calibre/4.724" , L30A1 tank gun [4], the successor to the gun used on Chieftain and Challenger 1. The gun is made from high strength electro-slag refining (ESR) steel with a chromium alloy lining and, like earlier British 120 mm guns, is insulated by a thermal sleeve. It is fitted with a muzzle reference system, fume extraction and is gyro-stabilised. The turret has a rotation time of 9 seconds through 360 degrees. Because the British Army continues to place a premium on the use of high explosive squash head (HESH) rounds in addition to saboted rounds, Challenger 2's cannon is rifled, making it unique among the NATO MBTs. HESH rounds continue to be used by the British for three reasons; they have a longer range than saboted penetrator rounds, they are more effective against buildings and thin-skinned vehicles, and are also cheaper than the CHARM 3.

Forty-nine rounds can be carried from a selection of APFSDS, HESH or smoke. A depleted uranium APFSDS round known as CHARM 1 (Challenger Armament) was produced, later replaced by the improved CHARM 3. As with earlier versions of the 120 mm gun, the rounds are in two parts, a charge and a warhead. Contrary to speculation, this does not reduce the rate of fire of Challenger 2; in fact, a loader can often sustain a higher rate of fire than auto-loaders with single-piece ammunition. Further, separate charge sticks reduce the likelihood of enemy fire igniting the ammunition.

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Replied on: 04/05/2008 16:53:08
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Acting as a mobile pillbox/armor shield for infantries during the first stage, and then as a mobile armor strike force in the second stage

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Reply author: SK2
Replied on: 04/05/2008 17:00:36
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Re. Plan B
The torison bar suspension can be retained, just the front torison bars needed to be strengthened (Israeli experience). L44 guns on the new turret is ok, as L55 guns would affect movement in some situation. As you are changing a new turret, ERA is unnecessary.

Re. Plan C
The most possible version that US selling would be very similar to M1A1D, or version that is similar to the Aussie ones. MLU would be, or should be done before they are being transferred to RoCA. Engine could be replaced with GD883/MTU883 pack, similar to the Merkava 4 power unit.


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Replied on: 11/03/2008 00:45:53
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Reply author: BWS
Replied on: 11/04/2008 00:13:08
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quote:
Originally posted by HOTARU

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Reply author: HOTARU
Replied on: 11/04/2008 01:20:35
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Reply author: BWS
Replied on: 11/04/2008 07:58:18
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quote:
Originally posted by HOTARU

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Reply author: HOTARU
Replied on: 11/04/2008 08:05:28
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quote:
Originally posted by BWS


§A»¡ªº¬O³oºÞ105mm½u½£¯¥ , µM«á58­¿®|ªº??

°¾°¾¥¦¬O¥[¹A¯¥,Äݩ󯥧LªZ¾¹ ; ÃīǪŶ¡¥[¤j¬OµLªk®e¯Ç¼Ð·ÇNATO 105mm¾Ô¨®¯¥¼u
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Reply author: toga
Replied on: 11/04/2008 11:40:26
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Äò¥Î105 mm¾Ô¨®¯¥ªº¤@­Ó¼ç¦b°ÝÃD¦b©ó¡G¦Ñ¬ü¦ü¥G¤w¸g¤£¦A¥Í²£¦¹¤@¯¥«¬»P¬ÛÃö¼uÃIJ£«~¤F¡A¥u¦³°h§Ð«Ê¦s³f¦â¥i¥Î¡A¦]¦¹¦b«áÄòºû­×¸É«O»P§ó·s¤W·|¤£·|¥X²{°ÝÃD¡H¡HÁÙ¯à°÷«ùÄò¸gÀç¦h¤[¡H¡H¡H


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Reply author: HOTARU
Replied on: 11/04/2008 11:44:39
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 11/04/2008 11:49:22
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105mm¬¶®ø¯Ó¤Ó§Ö,¥ÎAPFSDS®É¬Æ¦Ü¥|¤Q´Xµo´N«Øij´«¯¥ºÞ¥H§K¼W¤j»~®t,¦U¼uºØ¥­§¡µo®gªº¹Ø­­¤]¶È220µo,¬Û¹ïªº´NÅܦ¨¥Í²£¼t¦h,¥[¤W§Þ³N¤S¦Ñ,¤Þ¶i¥é³y³£¤£¬O°ÝÃD,¯u­n»¡°ÝÃD¥u¦³¦b©x¹±,©È¥é³y¨S¦h¤[µ¹§A°±²£´X¦~¾÷¨ã³£§¹³J¥H«á¤S­n§A´_²£......

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Reply author: HOTARU
Replied on: 11/04/2008 11:54:41
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220µo¨ºÀ³¸Ó¬O¦ÑL7,²{¦bªº·s105mm¯¥¹Ø©R³£ªø±o¦h¤F.


Reply author: SK2
Replied on: 11/04/2008 13:26:28
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quote:
Originally posted by HOTARU
«n«D³Ì·sªº105mm½u½£¯¥¥sG8


Are you talking about GT-8 instead of G...8? (sounds like something else )


Reply author: HOTARU
Replied on: 11/04/2008 15:15:41
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G7ªº¤U¤@­Ó´N¥sG8Åo~~¦Ü¤Ö¨â¦~¦h«eªºÂø»xÁÙ³o¼Ë¼g¨S¿ù,«á¨Ó¬O§_¦³§ï¦W¬Æ©Î¨ú®ø§Ú´N¤£ª¾¹D¤F.


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Replied on: 11/04/2008 16:35:14
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 11/04/2008 16:38:45
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¨®¤l«Ü¤j©Ò¥H¬Ý¨Ó¤£ªø.¨º¨Ç¬}¬O­J´ÔÅø¦¡¨î°h¾¹.

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http://www.hbhousing.com.tw/web/A002/index.asp?module=search&file=Detail&No=Z087382%20%20%20&AID=A002
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Replied on: 11/04/2008 17:21:48
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Reply author: BWS
Replied on: 11/05/2008 19:55:44
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by HOTARU



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Reply author: HOTARU
Replied on: 11/06/2008 04:13:35
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Reply author: ¬î¼ü«ø¤ô
Replied on: 11/07/2008 18:45:37
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Reply author: sfsm
Replied on: 11/07/2008 19:27:11
Message:

½Ð°Ý¤@¤U¡A§Ú¬Ý¤£¤ÓÀ´³o¸Ü¤å³¹ªº·N«ä(±M·~³N»y¤Ó¦h¤F)¡A½Ö¥i¥H¸ÑÄÀ¤@¤U¡H

Embarrassing ¡V being ¡§designed to meet military specifications¡¨ does not have anything to do with loading the bridge up with M-1s bumper to bumper.

Standard AASHTO bridge loading for design is HS20-44 which is basically an axle load of 26,000 lbs on top of a lane load of 640 lbs/lin.ft.

What they surely mean is by ¡§military specifications¡¨ is the AASHTO ¡§alternative military load¡¨, which in lieu of the HS20-44 is two 24,000 lb axles spaced at 4 ft apart.

Ain¡¦t no military commander going to order all his tanks to bunch up on bridge, ¡§That¡¦s it boys, get nice and tight together¡¨ even in peacetime at home. [Rosie says, google it - bridge FM5 ¡§military load¡¨]

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http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/011216.php


Reply author: sfsm
Replied on: 11/11/2008 22:53:40
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