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Reply author: SK2
Replied on: 10/29/2007 01:17:30
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1. It should be RSAF (Republic of Singapore Air Force)
2. Probably yes for tracking suspected vessels, but no for anti-shipping
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Replied on: 10/29/2007 01:26:23
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Replied on: 10/29/2007 02:26:59
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Replied on: 10/29/2007 09:33:01
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Reply author: Clancy Asimov
Replied on: 10/29/2007 11:53:24
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1. It should be RSAF (Republic of Singapore Air Force)
2. Probably yes for tracking suspected vessels, but no for anti-shipping
I thought of using 'RSAF' in the first place, but then it sounded like 'Royal South African Air Force' to me, so I dropped it.
Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 10/29/2007 13:19:49
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Originally posted by SK2
1. It should be RSAF (Republic of Singapore Air Force)
2. Probably yes for tracking suspected vessels, but no for anti-shipping
I thought of using 'RSAF' in the first place, but then it sounded like 'Royal South African Air Force' to me, so I dropped it.
and, there is another RSAAF too ......
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Reply author: SK2
Replied on: 11/03/2007 13:40:42
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Originally posted by SK2
1. It should be RSAF (Republic of Singapore Air Force)
2. Probably yes for tracking suspected vessels, but no for anti-shipping
I thought of using 'RSAF' in the first place, but then it sounded like 'Royal South African Air Force' to me, so I dropped it.
Err.....there is no "Royal" title in South African Air Force (SAAF)
And...the short term of Royal Saudi Air Force did crash with the Singapore ones...both are RSAF
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Replied on: 11/19/2007 23:35:48
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Replied on: 11/20/2007 06:25:58
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Replied on: 11/20/2007 07:25:38
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Replied on: 11/20/2007 09:08:36
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 11/20/2007 10:54:55
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Replied on: 11/22/2007 20:10:44
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Replied on: 11/22/2007 20:14:17
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Replied on: 11/23/2007 02:47:39
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Replied on: 11/23/2007 08:07:24
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Replied on: 12/04/2007 10:49:07
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Replied on: 12/04/2007 14:56:33
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Replied on: 12/05/2007 01:04:29
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Replied on: 12/05/2007 09:45:25
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when those old DD is still there, ROCN always have an impressive "fireworks" : those twin-5"/38
just 6 DD, with 24 5" guns in total, their full salvo is fxxking impressive......
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 12/07/2007 06:08:30
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Replied on: 12/07/2007 11:13:56
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 12/07/2007 14:18:03
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Replied on: 12/07/2007 14:52:05
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Replied on: 12/07/2007 15:55:08
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Replied on: 12/09/2007 09:26:55
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Replied on: 12/09/2007 10:14:22
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My questions & opinions:
ROCAF or FAF(Formosa AF)????
You, luke-skywalker, are absolutely 100% royal to ROC.
AF of ROC in TW are not all support ROC.
How to define defense/military secret???
You(Luke-skywalker) always post a lot of defense news in every military forum without your own unique comments. I hope the president of IMFS can show more strategic and tactic views in news comments.
TC420/TW/HQ/2F
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Replied on: 12/09/2007 11:02:45
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Replied on: 12/09/2007 23:30:45
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Reply author: dc4
Replied on: 12/10/2007 09:39:23
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Replied on: 12/10/2007 09:50:15
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Replied on: 12/10/2007 10:01:57
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Reply author: Luke-Skywalker
Replied on: 12/10/2007 10:49:36
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 12/10/2007 13:05:22
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Dennis Hickey said the US should agree not to sell jets to Taiwan in exchange for the removal of ballistic missiles that China has pointed at Taiwan
By William Lowther
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Friday, Nov 13, 2009, Page 3
A US professor is urging US President Barack Obama to make a deal with Beijing over the sale of advanced F-16 fighter planes to Taiwan.
¡§The warplanes should be used as bargaining chips,¡¨ said Missouri State University political science professor Dennis Hickey in an article published this week in the Los Angeles Times.
The article appeared on the eve of Obama¡¦s departure on a four-nation tour of Asia, beginning yesterday, that will include two days in China and incorporate direct talks with Chinese President Hu Jintao (JÀAÀÜ) that are certain to touch on US arms sales to Taiwan.
While the official agenda may be dominated by efforts to resolve the global financial crisis, climate change and nuclear proliferation in North Korea, Hickey said that most analysts agree that Beijing¡¦s primary concern would be Washington¡¦s continued military support of Taiwan.
In particular, the Chinese are known to strongly oppose Taiwan¡¦s request for 66 upgraded F-16 fighters.
¡§Obama should not bow to Chinese pressure and scuttle the idea of F-16 sales,¡¨ Hickey wrote.
He said that the administration ought to explore the possibility of agreeing to a deal similar to that proposed by former Chinese president Jiang Zemin (¦¿¿A¥Á) to former US president George W. Bush in 2002.
¡§The US should agree not to sell advanced fighters to Taiwan in exchange for the removal of the 1,500 ballistic missiles that China has deployed directly opposite Taiwan,¡¨ he said.
¡§Such an initiative could yield numerous dividends,¡¨ Hickey said.
He said that Beijing would seriously consider the proposal because it would generate goodwill in Taiwan.
It would also provide Taipei with tangible evidence that its policy of cooperation and conciliation with China is working.
¡§The current leaders would be able to more easily move forward with other measures aimed at rapprochement and enhance their prospects for re-election,¡¨ the professor said.
He pointed out that US officials have long emphasized that arms sales to Taiwan can serve as a stabilizing factor in East Asian affairs.
But in this instance, he said, the sale of high-profile F-16s would jeopardize relations with Beijing, undermine core US interests and help spark an arms race across the Taiwan Strait.
Hickey concluded: ¡§If Washington uses the prospect of dropping such sales as a bargaining chip to persuade China to remove the missiles, it would help reduce cross-strait tensions, pave the way for closer Sino-American relations and promote peace and stability in the western Pacific.¡¨
¡§The choice should be obvious,¡¨ Hickey said.
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Replied on: 06/02/2010 20:58:10
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Getting the new F16 block 50/52 will make the citizen think that our °õ¬FªÌ is protecting our country, but upgrade the existing F16A/B DO NOT add any point for °õ¬FªÌ because the majority of the citizen (almost 99%) consider the upgraded F16/A/B is no different than the old one, because it's still F16A/B but not C/D although the modified A/B is almost the same as C/D. Too add more points and get more votes for the Presidential election on 2012, getting the brand new F16 is more valuable and profitable for the current °õ¬FªÌ. Everything in this country can't be think as easy as 1+1=2, there is always something related to election and color. Same reason apply to the Navy and Army. Getting brand new "item" always make people happy but not the modifing old system or module, that's why so many "stuff" in the armed force is out of date but still in service without modification.
What do you think?
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Replied on: 06/03/2010 09:39:17
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Replied on: 06/03/2010 09:40:21
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Replied on: 06/03/2010 21:26:35
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Replied on: 06/04/2010 00:16:53
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Replied on: 06/04/2010 16:23:35
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Replied on: 06/04/2010 16:37:53
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Replied on: 06/05/2010 02:13:05
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Replied on: 06/05/2010 07:13:54
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 06/05/2010 18:45:21
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Replied on: 06/05/2010 19:15:06
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Replied on: 06/05/2010 22:51:34
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Replied on: 06/06/2010 00:48:17
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Replied on: 06/06/2010 12:51:57
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Replied on: 06/06/2010 19:16:44
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Reply author: Luke-Skywalker
Replied on: 01/13/2011 18:40:45
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Replied on: 03/20/2011 07:36:34
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Replied on: 03/20/2011 12:40:57
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Aug. 05--Lockheed Martin will someday build the last F-16 fighter jet at its Fort Worth plant, but that day is still years away.
Lockheed could be close to landing another foreign order for F-16s after the Defense Department notified Congress on Tuesday that the government of Oman requested permission to negotiate to buy 18 planes, weapons and other equipment worth about $3.5 billion.
It would be Oman's second F-16 purchase after taking delivery of the first of 12 in August 2005.
Just a year ago Lockheed's F-16 order backlog was down to about 80 planes, and production was slated to end in 2012. But late last year, Egypt and Morocco each ordered 24 planes, extending the production line another year.
"I think we're into 2013, and 18 F-16s for Oman would extend the line until summer of 2014," Lockheed spokesman Joe Stout said. The F-16 order backlog was 81 planes at the end of June.
The Oman deal still faces several hurdles. Congress has 30 days to veto the proposed sale. If that does not occur, the U.S. government would extend a formal offer to sell planes to Oman. Once that offer is accepted, Oman and Lockheed would negotiate terms of a sale.
The Block 50/52 model aircraft Lockheed is now building and delivering to most foreign customers is essentially on a par with the latest aircraft operated by the U.S. Air Force.
In addition to the 18 planes, at cost of $60 million each, Oman would purchase weapons systems, radars, navigation and other electronics systems. It would also get upgraded components for its 12 existing F-16s.
The Defense Security Cooperation Agency, which handles controlled weapons sales, said in its message to Congress that the proposed sale would not upset the military balance of power in the Middle East and would enable Oman to cooperate with U.S. and allied forces.
Lockheed delivered 31 F-16s last year. It is building about two a month, with 11 delivered in the first six months of 2010.
Teal Group aerospace analyst Richard Aboulafia said it's conceivable that F-16 production could extend beyond 2015 or well beyond if a couple of large deals are consummated.
"If you adjust [the price] for inflation, the F-16 is an incredibly good deal," he said.
Lockheed is pressing India to select the F-16 for an order of 126 multirole fighters the nation has been considering buying in a drawn-out procurement process. Taiwan would like to buy 66 new model F-16s, but both the Bush and Obama administrations have refused for fear of upsetting China.
Sales of the F-35 joint strike fighter were supposed to have sealed the fate of the F-16, but years of delays and soaring cost estimates could keep the F-16 production line going.
"The most interesting thing is Israel. Given the sticker shock they seem to be having about the F-35, they could decide to opt for a high-low mix of some F-35s and more F-16s," Aboulafia said.
He said Israel and other F-16 owners could decide to buy some additional jets over the next several years to replace their oldest planes.
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