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75-90km vs a fighter target, tailchase engagement.
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The profile of the Type 90 is similar to the original German Leopard 2 without the sloped armor, (Leopard 2 to 2A4) but unlike the Leopard 2, the Type 90 uses modular ceramic composite armour, [3] common in contemporary post-1990s tank designs. The adoption of modular composite armour design facilitates the upgrading and exchange of the armor, and its frontal armor is tested to be effective against 120 mm APFSDS projectiles from the L44 gun, while the side armor of the turret is capable of defeating up to 35 mm APDS (Armour penetration of 90 millimeters of RHA at one kilometer) projectiles.
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The LAW, although light and easy to use, has a small explosive charge¡@and limited penetration. It can be defeated by a double layer brick wall backed by 4 feet (1.2 meters) of sandbags since it cannot produce a loophole in this type construction.
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The LAW requires at least 11 yards (10 meters) to arm. If it hits a target before it arms, it usually does not detonate.
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The LAW causes only a small entry hole in an armored vehicle target, though some fragmentation or spall may occur.
Of all the common building materials, heavy stone is the most difficult to penetrate. The LAW usually will not penetrate a heavy European-style stonewall. Surface cratering is usually the only effect.
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Layered brick walls are also difficult to breach with light weapons. Some brick walls can be penetrated by multiple firings, especially if they are less than three bricks thick. Five LAW rounds fired at the same spot on a 8-inch (double-brick) wall normally produces a loophole.
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Wooden structural walls offer little resistance to light weapons. Even heavy timbered walls are penetrated and splintered. Three LAW rounds fired at the same area of a wood-frame wall usually produce a man-sized hole.
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M72 penetration against structural materials.
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* Earth 6 ft (1.8 m), leaving a quarter-sized hole with no span
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* Reinforced Concrete 2 ft (0.6 m), leaving a dime-sized hole and creating little span
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Although the penetration data for the LAW appears promising, it is not an effective breaching weapon. Test data indicates that it cannot, even with multiple shots, create a man-size breach hole.
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The couterpart of Type 96 in US, the MGM-157
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