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Topic author: Luke-Skywalker
Subject: F-CK-1¾Ô¾÷¥X¼t20¶g¦~¬ö©À(Áµ´hwp2003¸ò¤å)
Posted on: 12/26/2008 23:10:35
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Reply author: dellasus
Replied on: 12/26/2008 23:39:27
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Reply author: Luke-Skywalker
Replied on: 12/26/2008 23:55:29
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Reply author: ¥Õªe¤l
Replied on: 12/27/2008 00:26:05
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Replied on: 12/27/2008 00:35:33
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Replied on: 12/27/2008 00:41:25
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Replied on: 12/27/2008 06:57:24
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Reply author: Captain Picard
Replied on: 12/27/2008 08:11:53
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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 12/27/2008 09:48:12
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 12/27/2008 10:26:15
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Reply author: sfsm
Replied on: 12/27/2008 10:41:53
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Reply author: Captain Picard
Replied on: 12/27/2008 11:12:00
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Reply author: toga
Replied on: 12/27/2008 11:19:28
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 12/27/2008 11:20:35
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Reply author: BWS
Replied on: 12/27/2008 23:40:05
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Reply author: Captain Picard
Replied on: 12/28/2008 00:03:17
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Reply author: Peter Chen
Replied on: 12/28/2008 02:20:02
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Reply author: von_Guo
Replied on: 12/28/2008 05:08:06
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>>> or "I don't fly" <<<

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Reply author: Reinherd Von Hwang´£·þ
Replied on: 12/28/2008 06:13:07
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Reply author: hawkeye
Replied on: 12/28/2008 09:13:21
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Reply author: Luke-Skywalker
Replied on: 12/28/2008 17:50:51
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Reply author: ¥Õªe¤l
Replied on: 12/28/2008 18:06:18
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Replied on: 12/28/2008 21:06:03
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Replied on: 12/29/2008 12:55:17
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Replied on: 01/02/2009 15:32:37
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Replied on: 01/02/2009 19:47:37
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Replied on: 01/02/2009 22:57:46
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Replied on: 01/03/2009 11:10:14
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Replied on: 01/03/2009 11:30:07
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Replied on: 01/03/2009 11:49:49
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quote:
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Replied on: 01/03/2009 11:58:50
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quote:
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Replied on: 01/03/2009 11:59:05
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Replied on: 01/03/2009 12:24:57
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quote:
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Replied on: 01/03/2009 17:17:30
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quote:
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Reply author: msbe
Replied on: 01/03/2009 18:52:11
Message:

­è¦n·Q¨ì¤@¥ó¨Æ:
F-16AMªºHUD:


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Reply author: cobrachen
Replied on: 01/03/2009 22:41:20
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Replied on: 01/04/2009 09:47:15
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Reply author: msbe
Replied on: 01/04/2009 10:42:02
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Reply author: msbe
Replied on: 01/04/2009 10:56:43
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Su


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Reply author: msbe
Replied on: 01/04/2009 11:16:15
Message:

F-15 HUD:

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Reply author: msbe
Replied on: 01/04/2009 12:12:56
Message:

Mirage2000 MFD:

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Reply author: toga
Replied on: 01/04/2009 13:38:27
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Reply author: msbe
Replied on: 01/04/2009 13:50:53
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by toga

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Reply author: iamhappy
Replied on: 01/04/2009 14:12:38
Message:

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Reply author: Luke-Skywalker
Replied on: 01/04/2009 14:16:40
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by iamhappy

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=========================
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President of IMFS(International Military Fans Society)


Reply author: msbe
Replied on: 01/04/2009 14:19:45
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke-Skywalker

[quote]Originally posted by iamhappy


http://www.l-team.idv.tw/S-Report/S-Report-35.htm

=========================
May the Force be with you

President of IMFS(International Military Fans Society)


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Reply author: jackguof1273
Replied on: 01/04/2009 14:29:08
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by msbe

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Su

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Reply author: iamhappy
Replied on: 01/04/2009 14:30:09
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by msbe

quote:
Originally posted by Luke-Skywalker

[quote]Originally posted by iamhappy


http://www.l-team.idv.tw/S-Report/S-Report-35.htm

=========================
May the Force be with you

President of IMFS(International Military Fans Society)


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Reply author: msbe
Replied on: 01/04/2009 14:59:06
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke-Skywalker


http://www.l-team.idv.tw/S-Report/S-Report-35.htm

=========================
May the Force be with you

President of IMFS(International Military Fans Society)


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Reply author: ASMP
Replied on: 01/04/2009 15:04:50
Message:

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Reply author: ¬PÄ¥¾Ô±N
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Replied on: 01/04/2009 15:14:36
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Replied on: 01/04/2009 15:32:37
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Replied on: 01/04/2009 16:46:09
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Replied on: 01/04/2009 23:12:33
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Replied on: 01/05/2009 07:46:08
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Replied on: 01/05/2009 11:25:58
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Replied on: 01/20/2009 21:42:22
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Replied on: 01/20/2009 21:51:06
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Replied on: 01/21/2009 00:17:45
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Replied on: 01/21/2009 09:42:28
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 01/21/2009 10:18:14
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quote:
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quote:
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Replied on: 01/21/2009 11:32:48
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Replied on: 01/21/2009 12:31:18
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4. Global Positioning System (GPS).

5. Voice/data/video recording.

6. Integration of the AN/AAQ-228 LITENING Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) Pod.

7. Operational support for these modifications will be provided through upgrades to the mission data system through the purchase of the Joint Mission Planning System.

8. Engineering change proposals, system integration and testing, software development, integration, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical data, personnel training and equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering support services, and other related elements of logistics and program management support.


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Replied on: 01/21/2009 14:20:09
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Replied on: 01/21/2009 16:21:14
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quote:
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Replied on: 01/21/2009 16:24:03
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quote:
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Replied on: 01/21/2009 16:44:15
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Reply author: cobrachen
Replied on: 01/22/2009 00:20:30
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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 01/22/2009 06:23:09
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quote:
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LCS is basically a corvette, which is not designed for "big fleet actions". NoSN is retiring all frigate, soon their "Hi-Lo mix" will only have very high (CVN, CGX, DDX....) and very low (LCS) but nothing in between as they don't need "Ocean Escort" such as frigate anymore..........

So, either Taiwan have to buy ships from Europe (I want Type-45 but not the shitty French design) or design on their own based on FFG-7 (such as F-100?????).....

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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 01/22/2009 10:48:57
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Reply author: chinyu_su
Replied on: 01/22/2009 11:25:46
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Reply author: msbe
Replied on: 01/22/2009 11:53:29
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 01/22/2009 14:07:53
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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 01/22/2009 14:46:17
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quote:
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quote:
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the USN LCS will be installed with 57mm guns anyway, so installing 40mm gun is not too strange, what is strange is how Taiwan going to develope their navy. An ocean navy with large ships will be expansive but very useful for Taiwan's defense (especially f Taiwan want to make multi-layer defences), a coastal navy with LCS is nothing more than a coastal guards, which is cheap but useless in big wars ....

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Reply author: SK2
Replied on: 01/22/2009 14:57:53
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quote:
Originally posted by rockitten
the USN LCS will be installed with 57mm guns anyway, so installing 40mm gun is not too strange, what is strange is how Taiwan going to develope their navy. An ocean navy with large ships will be expansive but very useful for Taiwan's defense (especially f Taiwan want to make multi-layer defences), a coastal navy with LCS is nothing more than a coastal guards, which is cheap but useless in big wars ....



Or maybe RoCN thinks the same as the USN, that is, patrolling others coastline, to be coast guard of other countries


Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 01/22/2009 15:03:45
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quote:
Originally posted by SK2

quote:
Originally posted by rockitten
the USN LCS will be installed with 57mm guns anyway, so installing 40mm gun is not too strange, what is strange is how Taiwan going to develope their navy. An ocean navy with large ships will be expansive but very useful for Taiwan's defense (especially f Taiwan want to make multi-layer defences), a coastal navy with LCS is nothing more than a coastal guards, which is cheap but useless in big wars ....



Or maybe RoCN thinks the same as the USN, that is, patrolling others coastline, to be coast guard of other countries





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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 01/22/2009 15:24:47
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That's why I said LCS is a corvette, or a military USCG Cutter.....

But do you think the hull form of LCS have the potential to "up-gunned" to a frigate class combatant ??
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Reply author: dellasus
Replied on: 01/22/2009 16:13:32
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Reply author: Captain Picard
Replied on: 01/22/2009 16:16:49
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>But do you think the hull form of LCS have the potential to "up-gunned" to a frigate class combatant ??

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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 01/22/2009 17:58:42
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 01/22/2009 18:32:58
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Replied on: 01/24/2009 13:09:09
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Replied on: 01/24/2009 13:37:50
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Replied on: 01/24/2009 14:25:11
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Replied on: 01/24/2009 14:30:49
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Reply author: chinyu_su
Replied on: 01/25/2009 09:11:18
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quote:
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 01/25/2009 09:22:28
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Reply author: dellasus
Replied on: 01/25/2009 09:44:50
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quote:
Originally posted by dasha

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Reply author: toga
Replied on: 01/25/2009 11:12:40
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Reply author: olddog
Replied on: 01/25/2009 15:57:46
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Reply author: ¶¢¹C¤§¤H
Replied on: 01/26/2009 03:20:57
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 01/26/2009 07:42:27
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Reply author: toga
Replied on: 01/26/2009 18:11:19
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quote:
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 01/31/2009 13:50:16
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 02/10/2009 21:42:50
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Reply author: Skyshade
Replied on: 02/13/2009 12:09:16
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 02/13/2009 13:21:56
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Reply author: dasha
Replied on: 02/13/2009 13:42:10
Message:

quote:
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Reply author: Steve Su
Replied on: 02/14/2009 11:35:01
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Reply author: whitewolf
Replied on: 02/14/2009 19:58:28
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quote:
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Reply author: kudy
Replied on: 05/24/2009 11:33:54
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Reply author: Luke-Skywalker
Replied on: 05/29/2009 10:45:42
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Replied on: 05/29/2009 12:18:04
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Reply author: Peter Chen
Replied on: 05/29/2009 14:02:50
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Reply author: Captain Picard
Replied on: 05/29/2009 19:28:42
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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 05/29/2009 19:41:18
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Replied on: 05/30/2009 09:06:08
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Replied on: 12/13/2009 19:50:09
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Replied on: 07/19/2010 15:47:00
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Replied on: 07/19/2010 15:53:00
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Replied on: 07/21/2010 02:28:02
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Replied on: 07/21/2010 12:01:30
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Replied on: 07/25/2010 18:05:47
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Replied on: 07/26/2010 13:39:34
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Replied on: 07/27/2010 14:31:09
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Replied on: 07/29/2010 00:21:02
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Replied on: 08/27/2010 09:52:49
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Replied on: 08/29/2010 18:45:38
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Replied on: 08/30/2010 02:58:37
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Replied on: 06/26/2011 09:50:52
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Replied on: 06/26/2011 21:43:18
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Replied on: 06/27/2011 20:49:55
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Reply author: Bryan C
Replied on: 07/01/2011 16:28:01
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Darn! Anything Ma touches or stand next to, either gets bad lucks or get hurts big time. Now, he sits in IDF......


Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 07/01/2011 20:50:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Bryan C

Darn! Anything Ma touches or stand next to, either gets bad lucks or get hurts big time. Now, he sits in IDF......


using the HUD as hand rail........
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why no one stop him?

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Reply author: Reich
Replied on: 07/01/2011 22:24:30
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Reply author: Captain Picard
Replied on: 07/01/2011 22:38:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Bryan C

Darn! Anything Ma touches or stand next to, either gets bad lucks or get hurts big time. Now, he sits in IDF......



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Reply author: Bryan C
Replied on: 07/02/2011 03:47:33
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Reich

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Just paid my share of taxes in Taiwan----just got back from Taiwan yesterday.....


Reply author: Bryan C
Replied on: 07/02/2011 15:06:49
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Captain Picard

quote:
Originally posted by Bryan C

Darn! Anything Ma touches or stand next to, either gets bad lucks or get hurts big time. Now, he sits in IDF......



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I was talking about people. CM Wang---2 years of bad luck after meeting Ma. Then, there's whole bunch of KMT people had Ma ¯¸¦b®ÇÃä during election, and all got hurt badly, to the point that most KMT people running for office took Ma out of their posters/pictures in 2010/2011.....


Reply author: chaos
Replied on: 07/02/2011 17:12:19
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Reich

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Ãö§A­Ì¨â­Ó¥~°ê¤HÔ£¨Æ±¡¡H

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Reply author: LUMBER
Replied on: 07/02/2011 17:44:42
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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 07/02/2011 17:52:55
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quote:
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well, it is common because those president will be in position for 8 years the maximum, but many project takes much more than that to finish......
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Reply author: Bryan C
Replied on: 07/02/2011 20:09:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Reich

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Sorry, I do sincerely apologized for breaking the rule of the forum, for being a duel nationality citizen. Thank you Reich for personally taken the time to point that rule out. This, is unacceptable, even for myself, and my unlawful conduct here in MDC that had screw up big time and should be punished to the fullest extend of the law. There's no excuse, and I take full responsibility for my action, and willing to accept any form of punishments, even if means ban for life from MDC foru for my unacceptable conduct. Again, I do sincerely apologized for breaking the rule here, even if it's unintentional.

I then, therefore, under the forum's rule pointing out by Reich, and turn myself in to the MDC forum's moderator/admin team, forced to request my ID account to be deleted due to it seems the forum moderator/admin team had stepped in this case and had fully determined and pointed out that none-citizen of Taiwan/ROC can not post here in MDC, and broken one of the rules which I'm not fully aware of to this date......

Again, I do fully apologized for my action here in MDC forum. I just didn't know such a rule exist---until Reich was nice enough to point it out for me. Usually I don't make political remarks here, since I'm not that good at political debates and other stuff.

In case those still wondering my political roots are, DPP's founder is my great uncle, and one of the reasons I got sent to US while still a teenager, but that should have no bearing in this case, and no need to get DPP army to get involve on my behalf in this case, it's entirely my own fault for not aware of the rule of MDC.....


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Replied on: 07/02/2011 22:46:58
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Replied on: 07/02/2011 23:30:49
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Reply author: rockitten
Replied on: 12/30/2012 18:47:40
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