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Replied on: 10/26/2011 09:20:32
Message: Besides, the laser designator used by Copperhead might be just 2-5 miles in range. Even if just use by forward observers to designate targets, it's not far enough.
The regular artillery and rocket launchers use against incoming enemy amphibious landing waves is going to call on XX/YY Grid system, a pre-determined grid on everyone's map. There's no references to land, but just a "kill box". Once the call for artillery goes through, the that grid/kill box will be rained down with steel/explosives to kill everything inside it, with dumb munitions and cluster warheads/bomblets. Just that the rounds and spread/density is depends on how many artillery companies will be allocated by higher up for that kill box.....
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Replied on: 10/26/2011 13:50:49
Message: Also laser designators for Copperhead going to have problem with fog and operating over water, not the best operating environment.....
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Reply author: Bryan C
Replied on: 10/30/2011 11:48:23
Message: But the regular TOW or TOW-2A/B still uses copper wire spool trail behind the missile, which might short out when use over water, therefore reduce possible operational range down to half of operating over land.....
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Replied on: 10/30/2011 13:23:22
Message: quote: Originally posted by Bryan C
But the regular TOW or TOW-2A/B still uses copper wire spool trail behind the missile, which might short out when use over water, therefore reduce possible operational range down to half of operating over land.....
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Replied on: 10/30/2011 18:00:52
Message: if me memory serve me correctly, those copperhead rounds are sent to Taiwan by mistake and so Taiwan only have very few of them in stock.........
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