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Luke-Skywalker
我是老鳥
Taiwan
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 Posted - 09/15/2005 : 12:10:31
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Hai Shih, SS-791, ex-USS Cutlass, Feb 2003
Copyright (C) 2003, San Francisco Maritime National Park Association
http://www.maritime.org/taiwan/photo.htm
據說美國早已播出該專輯了
而從這可以看出軍方大小眼到什麼地步
外國的月亮比較圓嗎？
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rockitten
我是老鳥
Australia
8191 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 17:23:30
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Originally posted by Luke-Skywalker
Hai Shih, SS-791, ex-USS Cutlass, Feb 2003
Copyright (C) 2003, San Francisco Maritime National Park Association
http://www.maritime.org/taiwan/photo.htm
據說美國早已播出該專輯了
而從這可以看出軍方大小眼到什麼地步
外國的月亮比較圓嗎？
What is the title of that DVD.....I want to buy one.... |
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Luke-Skywalker
我是老鳥
Taiwan
26649 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 18:21:17
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台灣這裡要播出後
才有可能發行DVD
但海軍對Discovery頻道開出的條件是
台灣區部份要等到這2艘老公公除役後才能播
這樣下去要等到何年何月
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rockitten
我是老鳥
Australia
8191 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 18:45:42
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Originally posted by Luke-Skywalker
台灣這裡要播出後
才有可能發行DVD
但海軍對Discovery頻道開出的條件是
台灣區部份要等到這2艘老公公除役後才能播
這樣下去要等到何年何月
美版DVD都沒?! Ah~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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dasha
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Posted - 09/16/2005 : 05:32:28
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Originally posted by rockitten
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Originally posted by Luke-Skywalker
台灣這裡要播出後
才有可能發行DVD
但海軍對Discovery頻道開出的條件是
台灣區部份要等到這2艘老公公除役後才能播
這樣下去要等到何年何月
美版DVD都沒?! Ah~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
有人大概沒注意您要問的是第四區或第一區的DVD......不過這個要查比較難.
忘了誰曾經把那節目中的若干畫面作成圖片,小弟一看那深度計就不對,變造過了,隱藏目前的潛深. |
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Luke-Skywalker
我是老鳥
Taiwan
26649 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2005 : 15:51:22
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關於GUPPY(在這裡是指魚類而非潛艦喔！)，在網路上搜尋到的資料：
http://www.ntut.edu.tw/~s2360027/guppy.htm
孔雀魚的學名是Poecilia reticulata，英名為Bellyfish，Guppy，Millions，在分類學上是屬於花將科(Poecillidae)，是屬於卵胎生(Livebears)的一種魚類，俗名為古比魚（GUPPY）。
文獻中最早的登載是在西元一八八六年時，由英國的傳教士Robert John Lechnere Guppy，由南美洲帶回了一群不同形態的小魚，贈予英國大英博物館，為紀念他的功勞，於是就以GUPPY便為此種魚的英文俗名，GUPPY之名在歐洲大陸便流傳開。
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ALPHONSE
路人甲乙丙
USA
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Posted - 09/24/2005 : 05:23:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Luke-Skywalker
關於GUPPY(在這裡是指魚類而非潛艦喔！)，在網路上搜尋到的資料：
http://www.ntut.edu.tw/~s2360027/guppy.htm
孔雀魚的學名是Poecilia reticulata，英名為Bellyfish，Guppy，Millions，在分類學上是屬於花將科(Poecillidae)，是屬於卵胎生(Livebears)的一種魚類，俗名為古比魚（GUPPY）。
文獻中最早的登載是在西元一八八六年時，由英國的傳教士Robert John Lechnere Guppy，由南美洲帶回了一群不同形態的小魚，贈予英國大英博物館，為紀念他的功勞，於是就以GUPPY便為此種魚的英文俗名，GUPPY之名在歐洲大陸便流傳開。
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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/guppy.htm
The Greater Underwater Propulsion Power Program (GUPPP) was initiated by the United States Navy after World War II. Like all programs in the military, some sort of "name" needed to be applied that would attract and hold attention. Since GUPPP didn't sound quite right, the third P was dropped and a Y added. Thus the word GUPPY, which had a far better ring to it since it did in fact sound more like a fish. At this time all submarines were named after undersea life.
steelshark 於: 2005/5/2, 15:23 NO: 1104597349#r1133
我覺得Guppy沒有翻作孔雀魚實在是因為Guppy是這麼來的：
美軍二戰的潛艦進行了 Guppp(The Greater Underwater Propulsion Power Program)這種經過升級的的潛艦被稱作Guppy
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Luke-Skywalker
我是老鳥
Taiwan
26649 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2005 : 22:30:59
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這時才給看........
http://news.yam.com/cna/politics/200511/20051107575935.html
催生新潛艦 海軍開放六十高齡海獅號潛艦
中央社記者方旭高雄七日電為讓國人了解採購潛艦迫切性，國防部今天公開「海獅號」茄比級潛艦，及﹁海虎號﹂劍龍級潛艦。尤其海獅號這艘高齡六十歲的骨董級潛艦，由於保養得宜，仍具一定戰力；但海軍也指出，由於功能衰退，潛航深度受限，電瓶容量低，執行呼吸管高速充電時間長，已無法滿足作戰需求。
國軍自民國六十年，執行水星計畫，才向美接收﹁海獅號﹂與另一艘﹁海豹號﹂潛艦，兩艘潛艦均為一九四三年製作，距今已超過六十高齡。海軍直到民國七十三年才配合劍龍專案，由荷蘭建造海龍、海虎軍艦，擔負反潛訓練及水下作戰任務。
由於美方於民國九十年同意售我八艘潛艦，因此海軍積極執行海星計劃建案，盼順利通過特別預算，結合現有潛艦戰力達成捍衛海疆任務。海軍也預估新獲八艘潛艦將可提升五倍預警範圍，加強近百倍以上打擊能力，包括聯合制海作戰、有效嚇阻等戰力均可大幅提升。
海軍今天安排讓媒體進入﹁海獅號﹂、﹁海虎號﹂潛艦參觀，但並未搭乘這艘曾在二戰中效力的潛艦出海試航，只在碼頭進行靜態展示。
茄比級潛艦續航力原本可達4500浬，並有能力在海中獨立作戰達45天，潛航最大速率12節，水面最大速率16節。但經六十年後，包括續航力、耐航力均大不如前，艦上的電瓶蓄電力也已經不足。由於過於老舊，因此海軍才積極希望順利籌獲八艘新潛艦，以充實戰力。
根據海軍提供資料，茄比級潛艦長約307.5呎、寬27呎，排水量水上約1813噸，水下約2400噸，動力系統採38D8Q柴油主機，水下達5200匹馬力。原配備MK-29戰鬥系統，以及SS-2型搜索雷達、被動聲納、主動聲納，以及DUUG-1B聲納預警器，可搭載75人。
目前世界上使用茹比級潛艦擔任戰備的只剩台灣，加上海軍潛修工程處保養得宜，連美軍技協人員都深表佩服。現任國防部長李傑、總統府侍衛長申伯之都擔任過海獅號艦長。
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Luke-Skywalker
我是老鳥
Taiwan
26649 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2005 : 09:11:20
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http://yam.udn.com/yamnews/daily/3001452.shtml
骨董級海豹潛艦 港都首現
記者謝龍田／高雄報導 11/11 04:06
高雄市、港明天熱鬧滾滾，海軍海豹號潛艦首度在高雄港新濱碼頭開放參觀，海洋局在旗津漁港辦「玉山之愛─布農文化饗宴」，都很有看頭。
編號「792」的海豹潛艦及編號「1105」的成功級飛彈巡防艦繼光艦，昨天靠泊新濱碼頭。海豹潛艦是首度在高雄港現蹤，搭渡輪往來旗津的民眾發現後，爭相拍照留念。
海豹號是茄比級柴電動力潛艇，民國34年在美國下水服役，民國62年10月和海獅潛艦一起在熱艦狀態，由美方移交我國，於民國65年成軍，這也是我國第一支潛艦部隊。
海豹潛艦能順利取得，從前軍事情報局長汪希苓任駐美武官就開始努力。歷經許多波折，美方交艦前剪斷潛艦所有的魚雷管線路，後來我方仍設法接通，以利訓練及防衛。
艦齡60年的海豹艦常被戲稱是「骨董潛艦」、「老爺潛艦」，甚至曾被華盛頓郵報形容潛入海底就可能變成「寡婦製造機」。不難想像老舊的程度，不過絕大多數國人沒看過潛艦，明天可一窺其真面目。
海軍艦隊司令部表示，潛艦今天下午會先邀育幼院院童參觀，明天上午9時至下午4時對外開放，同時展示的有繼光艦、海軍陸戰隊配備，另有園遊會、陸戰隊樂儀隊、莒拳隊及偵搜大隊表演，上午10時及下午3時40分各有一場。
布農文化饗宴活動明天下午3時至8時在旗津漁港廣場舉行，除了有布農族的傳統歌舞表演，另有旗津海洋市集搭配，包括原住民及南洋風味的特產、新鮮魚貨及水產製品展售、台灣啤酒試飲。
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saito
新手上路
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Luke-Skywalker
我是老鳥
Taiwan
26649 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2005 : 20:04:11
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http://news.yam.com/cna/politics/200511/20051111606607.html
國防知性之旅 海軍首度開放潛艦供民眾參觀
（中央社記者陳朝福高雄十一日電）海軍艦隊司令部舉辦的國防知性之旅，今天首度開放潛艦供民眾參觀，很多小朋友近距離看到龐然大物的潛艦，都非常興奮，雀躍不已。
海軍國防知性之旅今、明兩天在高雄港軍用新濱碼頭營區舉行，下午首先透過高雄市政府社會局邀請高雄地區育幼院院童一百七十多人參加，並由專人為小朋友解說潛艦、戰艦與火砲等性能，小朋友聽得津津有味，參觀行程結束時還不願離去。
小朋友們表示，這是他們第一次這麼近看到軍艦，也是第一次登艦參觀，對於飛彈、大砲都很有興趣，從昨天晚上就高興得睡不著覺。
海軍艦隊司令部表示，開放供參觀的為編號七九二號訓練用茄比級海豹潛艦，是柴電動力潛艦，民國三十四年在美國下水服役，六十五年移交我國海軍成立第一支潛艦戰隊，雖然船齡達六十年，仍然具有戰力。
這項國防知性之旅也開放成功級高速飛彈巡防艦繼光艦供民眾參觀，現場也有悍馬車等武器裝備展示，並安排聞名國際的海軍陸戰隊偵搜大隊、樂儀隊、莒拳隊等操演。
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Luke-Skywalker
我是老鳥
Taiwan
26649 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2005 : 20:30:16
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這次應該是改良型古比魚二級(GUPPY II)潛艦最後的公開開放了........
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ALPHONSE
路人甲乙丙
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2005 : 01:53:08
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要看中央社的照片可以到以下的新聞:
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服役超過六十年的海軍海獅潛艦，裝備老舊，功能衰退，人員操作儀器及休息空間狹小，潛航深度亦受限，無法滿足作戰需求。//中央社
服役一甲子 海獅首度公開
【大紀元11月8日訊】〔自由時報記者許紹軒／左營基地報導〕國防部昨天邀請媒體到高雄左營軍港參訪潛艦，服役超過六十年的海獅潛艦也首度公開，狹窄的空間與極具古意的艦內陳設，讓人讚嘆海軍的保養能力；但是官兵也坦承，零件已經很難找，所有官兵不約而同希望立法院趕快通過潛艦購案，讓他們能有新潛艦可以更安全地執行任務。
海軍海獅潛艦建造於1943年，由美國樸資茅斯海軍造船廠承建，民國62年在美接艦成軍，隨即大修後，於民國 63年返國服役。//中央社
服役超過六十年的海軍海獅潛艦，裝備老舊，功能衰退，人員操作儀器及休息空間狹小，潛航深度亦受限，無法滿足作戰需求。//中央社
海獅潛艦為美軍一九四五年下水的潛艦，距今已經超過六十年。浮航為一千八百餘噸，潛航為二千四百噸，在一九七三年4月12日納入我國海軍行列。
海獅潛艦的艙口非常狹窄，進入艙間才發現潛艦內部與電影中二次大戰的潛艇陳設非常接近，全艦只有艦長室為一張床，就算是副艦長或其他高級軍官，所分配到的睡覺空間，跟一般士官兵無異；餐廳一次最多只能容廿人共同用餐，因此吃飯都要輪流進飯廳，全艦吃完飯要一個多小時。
由於船實在太老，官兵坦承零件已經幾乎買不到，有些只好在台灣請工廠做，不然就是跟其他國家買報廢船的零件，官兵們都期待台灣能盡快購入新潛艦。
(http://www.dajiyuan.com)
11/8/2005 8:21:05 AM
http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/5/11/8/n1111924.htm
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海軍海虎潛艦建造於1985年，由荷蘭WF造船廠製造，民國76年加入戰鬥序列，擔任反潛訓練及水下作戰任務。//中央社
催生新潛艦 海軍開放六十高齡海獅號潛艦
【大紀元11月7日報導】（中央社記者方旭高雄七日電）為讓國人了解採購潛艦迫切性，國防部今天公開「海獅號」茄比級潛艦，及「海虎號」劍龍級潛艦。尤其海獅號這艘高齡六十歲的骨董級潛艦，由於保養得宜，仍具一定戰力；但海軍也指出，由於功能衰退，潛航深度受限，電瓶容量低，執行呼吸管高速充電時間長，已無法滿足作戰需求。
國軍自民國六十年，執行水星計畫，才向美接收「海獅號」與另一艘「海豹號」潛艦，兩艘潛艦均為一九四三年製作，距今已超過六十高齡。海軍直到民國七十三年才配合劍龍專案，由荷蘭建造海龍、海虎軍艦，擔負反潛訓練及水下作戰任務。
由於美方於民國九十年同意售我八艘潛艦，因此海軍積極執行海星計劃建案，盼順利通過特別預算，結合現有潛艦戰力達成捍衛海疆任務。海軍也預估新獲八艘潛艦將可提升五倍預警範圍，加強近百倍以上打擊能力，包括聯合制海作戰、有效嚇阻等戰力均可大幅提升。
海軍今天安排讓媒體進入「海獅號」、「海虎號」潛艦參觀，但並未搭乘這艘曾在二戰中效力的潛艦出海試航，只在碼頭進行靜態展示。
茄比級潛艦續航力原本可達4500浬，並有能力在海中獨立作戰達45天，潛航最大速率12節，水面最大速率16節。但經六十年後，包括續航力、耐航力均大不如前，艦上的電瓶蓄電力也已經不足。由於過於老舊，因此海軍才積極希望順利籌獲八艘新潛艦，以充實戰力。
根據海軍提供資料，茄比級潛艦長約307.5呎、寬27呎，排水量水上約1813噸，水下約2400噸，動力系統採38D8Q柴油主機，水下達5200匹馬力。原配備MK-29戰鬥系統，以及SS-2型搜索雷達、被動聲納、主動聲納，以及DUUG-1B聲納預警器，可搭載75人。
目前世界上使用茹比級潛艦擔任戰備的只剩台灣，加上海軍潛修工程處保養得宜，連美軍技協人員都深表佩服。現任國防部長李傑、總統府侍衛長申伯之都擔任過海獅號艦長。
11/7/2005 9:20:13 PM
http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/5/11/7/n1111710.htm
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推動軍購 海軍邀記者參訪「海獅」潛艦
【大紀元11月7日報導】(據中廣新聞繆宇綸報導)繼日前邀請國內媒體主管參訪後，軍方今天邀請記者參訪海軍潛艦戰隊的「海獅」與「海豹」兩艘古董級潛艦，希望透過媒體報導這兩艘潛艦已經年過六十，居然還在服役的「台灣奇蹟」，推動進行中的軍購案
「海獅」和「海豹」這兩艘古董級潛艦的前身，分別是美國海軍的SS478 Cutlass和SS426 Tusk，1945年成軍服役，在1940年代末進行Guppy級的性能提升改裝，並在1973年移交我國，成為我國在以土法煉鋼方式建造「海昌艇隊」和「海龍」、「海蛟」兩艘迷你潛艇後，終於成立第一支真正可以執行作戰任務的潛艦部隊。
Guppy級潛艦潛航排水量兩千四百噸，屬於水下潛航速度比浮航速度要慢的老式潛艦，據傳美方把潛艦移交我國的時候，剪掉了發射魚雷的線路，我方再度發揮「土法煉鋼」精神接了回去，不過這個說法始終沒有得到證實。
這兩艘潛艦雖然老，但是還是能發揮相當的訓練功能，還可以進行水下十五天到二十天的耐航訓練，比較新的「海龍」、「海虎」潛艦艦長，都必須有老船艦長的經歷。
「海獅」和「海豹」是全世界僅有的兩艘從二次世界大戰服役到二十一世紀的潛艦，已被視為世界奇蹟，還有國外媒體專程前來採訪。海軍上週曾邀請國內媒體主管參訪，今天又邀請媒體記者參訪，推動軍購意味濃厚。
11/7/2005 1:10:02 PM
http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/5/11/7/n1110959.htm
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Taiwan
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Luke-Skywalker
我是老鳥
Taiwan
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http://www.maritime.org/taiwan/index.htm
The San Francisco Maritime National Park Association operates USS Pampanito (SS-383) a WW II submarine museum and memorial in San Francisco, CA. Pampanito made six patrols in the Pacific during World War II during which she sank six enemy ships and damaged four others. Today Pampanito hosts as many as 250,000 visitors a year and is one of the most popular historic naval ships in the country. In addition to day time visitors, thousands of children each year participate in her day and nighttime educational programs. Pampanito is a leader in ship museum preservation and restoration programs with over half its equipment restored to operation. Pampanito is a National Historic Landmark.
Taiwan, R.O.C. has the last two operational WW II built submarines in the world. Both ex-USS Tusk (SS-426), and ex-USS Cutlass(SS-478) were built during WW II, modernized (Guppy II) during 1949 and continued to be operated by the USA before being transferred to Taiwan in the early 1970s. These are the worlds oldest working submarines. (The next oldest US submarines are in Turkey.) There are numerous sights and sounds unique to fleet type submarines that will be lost forever when these last two boats are retired. For security reasons, very little color film was created of the interior operations of this class of boat, and almost no sound recordings. Surprisingly, far more access has been given aboard modern nuclear submarines. Taiwan's boats represent the last chance to capture the essence of the WW II and Cold War U.S. Fleet Submarine experience. They are also symbolic of the complicated political and military situation in the straits. During 2002, the museum crew of USS Pampanito requested and received permission to document these historic boats.
With the generous cooperation of the Taiwanese Navy, in February of 2003, USS Pampanito restoration volunteers Terry Lindell and Rich Pekelney visited Taiwan to document the historic boats. They were given unprecedented access to the boats, including the opportunity to take photographs and video. The video was augmented by underway video created by Taiwanese Navy photographers. All the photos and video were subjected to security review by the Navy. Very few of the hundreds of photos where deleted and 3 were slightly edited. The photos at the link below are from Hai Shih (SS-791), ex-USS Cutlass (SS-478) and were taken Feb 17, 18 and 19 of 2003. The exterior underway video from helicopter and boat was taken in Jan 2003. Hai Shih's sister ship Hai Pao (SS-792), ex-USS Tusk (SS-426) had just returned from drydock. We were able to quickly tour her, but were unable to take pictures without disturbing the work that was preparing her for sea. We can report that she is very, very similar to ex-USS Cutlass and also in excellent condition. The link below will give you a first detailed look at this historic boat, up to now there have only been one or two photos of the boat released. We have more photos and a 20 minute video that includes the sights and sounds of the submarine including the control room during diving and surfacing that will be used in our museum. Some still images taken from that video are at the end of the photos.
http://www.maritime.org/taiwan/photo.htm
Below is a narrative describing our trip that was written while on the plane as we returned to San Francisco. We updated it a bit after our pictures cleared security in Sep 2003.
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20 Feb 2003 (updated Sep 2003)
Folks,
Terry Lindell and I have had an wonderful time in Taiwan. The Taiwanese are friendly, industrious and incredibly generous. The genuine warmth we have experienced from people on the street, government officials, and Navy personal has been remarkable.
Terry and I arrived in Taiwan on Wed. evening without problems, the R.O.C. Government Information Office escorted us through formalities and took us to the hotel. We met Thu. with an Admiral, three captains, two LTs and a photographer in the morning to complete formalities. This was followed by a visit to the Martyr's Shine, their place of honor for those (military and civilian) that have died in war. Then we were taken to lunch in the Grand Hotel, both the shrine and the hotel are thoughtful and beautiful interpretations of traditional themes built in the 1960s. Lunch was in the large restaurant that is used for state dinners. Then we met with the Government Information Office officials and the local film crew we hired at the GIO offices.
Friday morning we met with our A.I.T. contacts. Friday afternoon we traveled north to Keelung harbor for lunch on the way to a lantern festival celebration. The occasion started as a trip with some book publishers. However, during lunch we saw Navy ships visiting the Keelung harbor and giving tours to visitors. We left the book publishers behind and toured a Lafayette class destroyer and a Taiwanese built destroyer that is based on the US Perry class.
I should mention without boring everyone that the food was wonderful. We did not manage to find less than a great meal in either a street vendor or fancy restaurant. During the tour of the modern warships, we ran into primary R.O.C. Navy contact visiting as well. Although he was off duty, and with his girlfriend on Valentines Day, he still explained to us his theory of inverse correlation between Navy quality and quality of food while we toured the ships. His theory is that the French and Italians are better for food, but that the US and Britain have better Navies. He had numerous other examples, but we knew at this point that we would get along well. It turns out that Taiwan has good food and a good Navy. This could not be explained by anyone during the next week, even though the subject came up many times during our visit.
During our tour of the destroyers, we could look across the small Keelung harbor and see at least one of the WW II era Gerhing class destroyers (FRAM upgrade, additional Taiwanese upgrades) that they still operate. We also saw a WW II era rescue/salvage ship still in service. We were assured there are several other classes of WW II ships still in service. We left Keelung and headed up into the mountains to visit the Lantern Festival in Ping-shi, where we re-joined the book publishing group. Ping-shi is a tiny town in a beautiful narrow, steep walled valley. We arrived at dusk and as we walked up the quite valley (no cars during the festival) we could see small numbers of hot air lanterns floating above. As we walked higher and the night fell more and more lanterns were launched. Soon the nigh sky was filled with lanterns drifting upwards. We helped build, write wishes on, and launch lanterns with everyone else. Each lantern has the wishes of its sender written on the side and it is said that the higher the lantern goes the more likely the wish will be fulfilled. We saw everyone from the very young to the very old participate and we felt very lucky to share in this celebration.
On Saturday we visited the National Palace Museum in the morning. The museum collection was brought to Taiwan by the Nationalist as they fled the Communist in 1947. They took all the smaller objects, books, scrolls they could from the imperial collections of the forbidden city. This is the finest collection of imperial Chinese art in the world. In the afternoon we visited the Chang-kai-shek memorial which was also decorated for its lantern festival celebration.
Sunday we flew down to the other end of the island and landed in Kaohsuing where the submarines are based. We stayed at the Navy guest house just outside the base. After we settled in we took a ferry across the bay to enjoy dinner in the night-time fish market.
Finally, on Monday morning we met with the officers of the submarine command. I did not count how many captains, commanders, and Lts where in the room. We received a security briefing that repeated the agreements we previously had signed back in Taipai. There were lots of Powerpoint slides, most in Chinese, some in English. Then they laid out the filming schedule. It did not include leaving port. The explanation was that the message about filming while underway never got through. They had scheduled 3 days of shooting in port. It would be impossible to clear anyone for at sea operations that had not undergone submarine safety training. They pointed out that they do not even allow their own surface officers to go out on a submarine.
Even with this change in plans and schedules, we were the first non-Navy persons ever to be given unlimited access to take film and photographs inside their submarines. We were among a very small number of foreigners ever allowed aboard up to this time. They pointed out that everyone was trying very hard to work with us as best they possibly could under the constraints of their own safety rules. All those present were impressed that even this much access had been allowed. We were very grateful for their generosity and support.
We left and headed to ex-Cutlass, now SS-791 Sea Lion. All our work was done on ex-Cutlass as ex-Tusk had just returned from a 4 month shipyard maintenance period. They were very busy finishing up, with workmen all over the ship, getting her ready for sea. As a side note, we were permitted a quick visit ex-Tusk without cameras. We had to be careful to not slow down the workmen. We can report she is in excellent condition, and nearly identical to ex-Cutlass. As a result, all the technical observations we can make about ex-Cutlass would apply to ex-Tusk equally well.
Walking up to the boats was like entering a time machine and setting the date to 1973 (or maybe even 1949). Virtually nothing has been added or removed, and the very few upgrades were small. Because of this care, these two Guppy II conversions have as much WW II equipment and material aboard as any of the Fleet Snorkle, SSK, Guppy I, Guppy II or Guppy III conversions on display as museums in the USA. It was absolutely stunning how little has changed. Equally stunning, is the high grade of operational condition.
My favorite example was that both boats have Arma Mk 7 gyrocompass up and running in perfect condition. The last of these in the US was repaired in the US in 1975. Virtually all examples of these compasses were removed from the boats in the late 1950s and replaced with a smaller, easier to maintain (although less accurate) Sperry Mk 18s or later, modern Mk 19s. When we entered the control room there was the Arma gyrocompass, right where it should be, spinning, pointing north, and in use. Because of this trip we can now report that there are three of these working worldwide (Pampanito's was recently restored after 50 years of inactivity). Over and over again this would happen during our time on these boats. We would find equipment running in perfect order that we had not imagined was retained, or maintained.
Our first afternoon, the film crew got to work on their list of shots. They were seasoned professionals and worked within a schedule that allowed time for only two cuts on most of the shots. The sailors performed their duties, posing and acting as requested by the film crew. The submarine crew worked very hard to give us what we wanted, working well with the film crew, and never complaining. We were able to leave the film crew to their jobs.
Terry and I were free to move about the boat, in the process we got to know the officers and crew. I took photographs of every compartment throughout the boat. Only the radio room was off limits. There were some interesting moments. In the lower flats of the engine room, they looked puzzled when I did not accept the white gloves passed down to me. I thought they wanted some kind of "white glove clenliness test" of the lower flats, actually they use the white gloves as work gloves and would normally wear them below to keep their hands clean. They laughed when I explained my mistake. Everywhere I went I saw the same equipment that exists on our 1943 boat, only here all of it was operational, with much of it running while I toured the boat.
As Monday continued we got to know and respect the dedication and professionalism of this crew. They were as curious about us and we where about them. The education, skill and pride of this crew is the equal of any I have met anywhere. For example, Tuesday afternoon our visit was interrupted when they left to perform their most frequent mission, training war games with the ROC destroyers. The ROC Navy includes some effective and modern destroyers. Some they have built themselves in their own shipyard, while others are from the US and France. Tuesday afternoon this Guppy II prepared to go to sea and play cat and mouse. We had been talking with the crew about the upcoming mission, and they assured us that they are always able to hold their own. In training with the destroyer crews this 60 year old Guppy II boat always gets the "drop" on the much newer destroyers. They are good at what they do.
Tuesday morning the film crew continued their work and a new dynamic started. Terry went off with the Weapons Officer and started discussing Torpedo Data Computer's design, its history, trading techniques and useful tricks of the trade. I was in the wardroom talking with the Captain and some of the officers. By the time they left for their afternoon mission, both Terry and I had ideas of how our museum skills might be able to help these current day warriors. It was as unexpected as it was obvious in retrospect. Our respect for the crew became even stronger and they now understood our museum mission and the passion we hold for preserving the history and technology of the boats.
Tuesday afternoon while the boat was out war gaming we briefly visited the R.O.C Naval Academy Museum. We toured the museum, its Italian made mini-submarines and discussed HNSA (http://www.hnsa.org/). I hope they join. We then went to the Academy's video studio to view the underway, exterior shots of ex-Cutlass that they had taken for us in January. The footage is really wonderful, shot from both helicopter and surface ship it shows the boat diving, surfacing, as well as the periscopes, snorkle and other masts cutting through the water. Some of the film was quite dramatic including 30+ mile per hour winds with 4-5 foot seas. We felt a little guilty about indirectly having been the ones that made them to do it. Snorkeling in those waves could not have been much fun no matter how much the crew claimed it was not that bad.
Weds. morning began with the one of the officers showing us video that he shot on Tues. afternoon with his personal digital camera. He collected the sights and sound of the boat underway, just as we hoped we would collect with the professional film crew. The amateur footage is great, it was recorded in both torpedo rooms as well as the control room. It documents the diving and surfacing of the boat in the control room. Since he is a familiar part of the crew and this was not a simulation in port, the film really captures the sense of what it is like underway. He did a really great job and the final video released in September included much of this footage. We returned to the boat. The rest of the morning Wednesday became more and more interesting as the day progressed. Terry and the Weapons Officer disappeared. By about noon they reappeared with big smiles.
The two of them had gone off to fix a small problem in the TDC that had recently appeared. Given that any problem with a TDC is nearly as bad as a sick child to Terry, you might image the cheshire cat smile he surfaced with. It turns out that the TDC expert in their shipyard has recently retired. The crew aboard ship is doing the repairs and appreciated a little help from Terry's museum experience. While Terry was helping fix the TDC, he also sorted through the manuals on hand and offered to provide copies of some other unclassified material that they will find helpful. I was in the wardroom discussing manuals, hard to find parts, and some suggestions on where to look for them. It was a very successful morning for all involved.
Weds. afternoon we went back to the Naval Academy studio to transfer the digital video tape to the Beta SP that was needed for the security review. It was hard to pry Terry off the boat. He wants to stay and become qualified on the boat. He actually sat in on one of the chiefs giving a torpedo room qualification test, and found the process fascinating.
We returned to Taipai on Wed. evening and got on our plane home three days early on Thursday morning, We are very thankful to the many very generous Taiwanese that helped us with this project.
Rich Pekelney
Terry Lindell
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May the Force be with you
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