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小毛
我是老鳥
Taiwan
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WingStar
我是菜鳥
Taiwan
461 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2024 : 20:44:16
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RISC-V其實不好用.....
開源的其實沒比較好,不要真的以為眾人加起來力量就比較大 |
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semmyenator
我是菜鳥
Japan
583 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2024 : 20:55:30
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quote: Originally posted by WingStar
RISC-V其實不好用.....
開源的其實沒比較好,不要真的以為眾人加起來力量就比較大
RISC-V是自己會ASM可以定義到指令集層的東東,這個彈性看你如何用了
故曰:「倉廩實而知禮節,衣食足而知榮辱。」禮生於有而廢於無。故君子富,好行其德;小人富,以適其力。淵深而魚生之,山深而獸往之,人富而仁義附焉。富者得勢益彰,失勢則客無所之,以而不樂。諺曰;「千金之子,不死於市。」此非空言也。故曰:「天下熙熙,皆為利來;天下壤壤,皆為利往。」夫千乘之主,萬家之侯,百室之君,尚猶患貧,而況匹夫編戶之民乎﹗ |
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semmyenator
我是菜鳥
Japan
583 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2024 : 22:09:37
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quote: Originally posted by 小毛
x86聯盟終於感受到威脅了..........XD 但是ARM架構還要付授權費才能用,RISC-V可是開放架構可以免費用,不知道何時會成氣候......
https://www.techbang.com/posts/118913-amd-and-intel-turned-enemies-into-friends-and-lisa-su-and AMD與英特爾化敵為友,蘇姿丰、基辛格同框結盟升級x86架構以抵禦Arm威脅
** 小毛的新幻想空間逐漸復活中(新增3D圖喔).....** http://lordmrx.pixnet.net/blog 歡迎參觀
Amber (processor)
The Amber processor core is a 32-bit reduced instruction set computing (RISC) processor compatible with the ARM architecture and is available in two versions: Amber 23 and Amber 25. The Amber kernel is fully compatible with the ARMv2a instruction set and is therefore supported by the GNU tool chain. The Amber 23 features a 3-stage pipeline, unified instruction and data cache, and Wishbone interface, with a processing power of 0.75 DMIPS per MHz. Amber 25 has a 5-stage pipeline, independent data and instruction caches, and a Wishbone interface. It can reach 1.0 DMIPS per MHz, and its performance is 30% to 40% higher than Amber 23. Both cores have been verified with the Linux 2.4 kernel, but Linux kernel 2.6 and later versions require some changes to be implemented. Additionally, these cores have no memory management unit (MMU) and can only execute non-virtual memory variants such as μClinux. The Amber project also provides a complete embedded FPGA system integrating the Amber core and multiple peripheral devices.
Zet (hardware)
Zet is a clone x86 architecture microprocessor that is machine code–compatible with x86 processors, developed as an effort to make an open-hardware CPU. The hardware design can be synthesized in a configurable device such an FPGA, CPLD, or on a custom ASIC, and is considered to be an SoC. As of now, the project only supports 16-bit, and is able to run DOS-compatible or Windows 3.x operating systems. There has been no activity on the Zet project.
可是有閒人用RISC-V來山寨X86和ARM
故曰:「倉廩實而知禮節,衣食足而知榮辱。」禮生於有而廢於無。故君子富,好行其德;小人富,以適其力。淵深而魚生之,山深而獸往之,人富而仁義附焉。富者得勢益彰,失勢則客無所之,以而不樂。諺曰;「千金之子,不死於市。」此非空言也。故曰:「天下熙熙,皆為利來;天下壤壤,皆為利往。」夫千乘之主,萬家之侯,百室之君,尚猶患貧,而況匹夫編戶之民乎﹗ |
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cph0516
路人甲乙丙
5260 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2024 : 02:14:32
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開源就是把研發的最大利益送人
有哪個傻子 願意會繼續投入這無底洞
簡單應用是一回事
單一牽扯到高複雜性的運用 大家可是 拼命把各種技術拿在手中
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semmyenator
我是菜鳥
Japan
583 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2024 : 17:12:40
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quote: Originally posted by cph0516
開源就是把研發的最大利益送人
有哪個傻子 願意會繼續投入這無底洞
簡單應用是一回事
單一牽扯到高複雜性的運用 大家可是 拼命把各種技術拿在手中
程式碼編譯成ASM是有數字指紋的,反正至少在歐美我找到你程式有用開源代碼而沒開源,我直接可吉爆你就是,那來那麼多有的沒的
故曰:「倉廩實而知禮節,衣食足而知榮辱。」禮生於有而廢於無。故君子富,好行其德;小人富,以適其力。淵深而魚生之,山深而獸往之,人富而仁義附焉。富者得勢益彰,失勢則客無所之,以而不樂。諺曰;「千金之子,不死於市。」此非空言也。故曰:「天下熙熙,皆為利來;天下壤壤,皆為利往。」夫千乘之主,萬家之侯,百室之君,尚猶患貧,而況匹夫編戶之民乎﹗ |
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小毛
我是老鳥
Taiwan
10647 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2024 : 17:20:51
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我上面是問說 RISC-V可是開放架構可以免費用,不知道何時會成氣候...... 所以各位的擔心還太早了,現在還沒成氣候....不過Android 和Ubuntu都開始支援RISC-V,所以套件要移植過去有是有機會的。 另外Linux下有DOSBOX可以用,想玩跨平台使用DOS/Windows還是有可能的。 ARM windows聽說遊戲相容性不好,這也需要時間去改進.......
** 小毛的新幻想空間逐漸復活中(新增3D圖喔).....** http://lordmrx.pixnet.net/blog 歡迎參觀 |
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閒遊之人
我是老鳥
6805 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2024 : 22:16:12
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新東西都要花時間成長 就看是長起來了 還是半路被勒死 |
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cph0516
路人甲乙丙
5260 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2024 : 04:01:18
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就算捨得花錢 想像中好搞
怎沒有超越安卓之外的OS系統
因為研發路上 只要不繼續投入大量資金 就是被人家徹底超越
如同現在的intel一樣 面臨賣祖產的地步 |
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WingStar
我是菜鳥
Taiwan
461 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2024 : 09:43:07
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開源架構從來都不會成氣候, 軟體類的LINUX就是一例, 硬體類的從PC532開始從來都長不起來, 越是需要投入資源去更新迭代的越是如此
對大陸來說搞RISC-V有不得已的需求, 但對其他人來說卻只是浪費更多資源
個人是蠻樂見大陸投入更多資源去發展RISC-V、鴻蒙之類的產品
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小毛
我是老鳥
Taiwan
10647 Posts |
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WingStar
我是菜鳥
Taiwan
461 Posts |
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