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gera
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Posted - 11/05/2024 : 21:28:56
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成功級-海弩專案
方陣->海劍羚獨立型 Bofos 350PX->海鏢40快砲
海弩是一個完整的系統,由海劍羚獨立型搭配海鏢40快砲組成.
海弩本身可獨立接戰,亦接受外部預警雷情餵入,但主要依賴海劍羚頭頂的雷達搜索-射控-接戰. 因此該雷達亦指揮海鏢快砲接戰.
海劍羚與海鏢都各自有自己的光電系統,當雷達指示接戰後,可由光電系統接手.
海鏢40砲是天鏢40砲的海基版,加強抗腐蝕的機能,為全自動無人快砲,人類只負責維保與補充彈藥.
康定級-海弩專案,同上.
成功級-海弩專案, 優點,大幅加強艦艇對後半圓的主動防護能力. 海劍羚提高對抗超音速反艦彈的能力. 海鏢40砲,則提高對抗反艦彈,無人機無人艇的攔截能力.
雙通道,三接戰, 成功級本身戰系指揮升級後的76砲接戰(單通道單接戰). 而海劍羚(雷達)則提供另一個通道與雙接戰(海劍羚,海鏢). 因此提高了對飽合攻擊的抵抗能力.
康定級-海弩專案的優點同樣如此,並且因為康定級的76砲在前方,所以可完善整個360度的防護圈.
其他, 升級後可換下14具方陣,可挪給其他艦艇使用.
另外可換下26具Bofos 40砲,可挪給其他艦艇或移交給海巡,強化其海面對抗能力.
:海軍升級76砲STRALES,本身就是為了加強防護,與方陣搭配,變為雙通道雙接戰.
但方陣本身有局限性. 可是改成海劍羚,雖然強化的對抗超音速反艦彈的能力,但反而在對抗無人機無人艇方面減弱了.
因此將Bofos 40砲更換為海鏢40砲就是一種必然的解決方案.
原則上來說,在雙艦,四艦的戰隊運動上,可以更有效的交叉掩護,更好的增加生存性,發揮1+1>2的效果.
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Edited by - gera on 11/05/2024 21:29:32 |
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小卒看倌
路人甲乙丙
  
Taiwan
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Posted - 01/04/2025 : 14:50:47
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但從未聽聞海軍願意投資Bofos 40砲,而海巡只想用什麼垃圾火箭彈 |
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cph0516
路人甲乙丙
  
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Posted - 01/04/2025 : 16:57:24
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一門快砲 要一艘海巡艦艇的價格 誰買得下去
海巡多帶幾挺50機槍 能嚇嚇漁民就夠 |
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小卒看倌
路人甲乙丙
  
Taiwan
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Posted - 01/04/2025 : 18:42:01
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再不然我的提議是買單中科院的艦用遙控30機炮,或是把TS-96遙控槍塔改一改上船? |
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Reinherd Von Hwang提督
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USA
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Posted - 01/06/2025 : 04:23:08
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quote: Originally posted by 小卒看倌
但從未聽聞海軍願意投資Bofos 40砲,而海巡只想用什麼垃圾火箭彈
我覺得時代不一樣了。
最早為何海軍堅持要裝波佛斯40mm快砲? 因為當初被中共的PT魚雷艇打出PTSD了。
為何後來海軍不願意繼續投資40mm快砲了?
因為中共的PT魚雷艇都退役了。現在連022飛彈快艇都退役了。所以40mm沒用武之地了。
但是現在時代不一樣了,現在無人自殺小艇/無人飛機的時代來了,很可能PTSD又要發作了。
不過話說回來,以後我猜20mm方陣炮可能也不會被取代省下來。因為需要額外的小口徑火炮對付無人艇/無人飛機。 |
Edited by - Reinherd Von Hwang提督 on 01/06/2025 04:24:17 |
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小卒看倌
路人甲乙丙
  
Taiwan
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Posted - 01/07/2025 : 10:16:10
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以規避專利來看,除了選擇二戰的40x311 mm R之外,是不是連整體結構一樣照抄二戰的60倍徑再改? |
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小毛
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Taiwan
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Posted - 01/07/2025 : 11:22:33
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不是只有BAE和李奧納多有40mm砲,韓國有授權生產,土耳其有自研的..... https://turdef.com/article/saver-shows-thunderbolt-40-70-sb-naval-gun SAVER Shows Thunderbolt 40/70 SB Naval Gun https://cdn.turdef.com/photos/yerli/saver%20thunderbolt%2040%20%2070.jpeg SAVER works with ASELSAN for ATOM airburst ammunition in a 40 mm Bofors package and HAVELSAN to integrate the Thunderbolt 40/70 family with combat management systems.
The firm also intends to develop a land-based variant of Thunderbolt 40/70 SB on a truck to provide air defence and fire support. BAE Systems previously revealed a similar concept with the truck-based Bofors 40 Mk4 with an electro-optical system for multi-role use.
https://turdef.com/article/naval-40-mm-turret-from-ermaksan Naval 40 mm Turret from Ermaksan https://cdn.turdef.com/images/articles/2312/v1680214340/4a32b379_6cbc_4d1d_a695_23f9c5ec4391_5bbd20d748.jpg Ermaksan, the main subcontractor of the Turkish MKE 76 mm indigenous naval gun system, is exhibiting its 40 mm naval gun turret solution during the event. Kaan-SNG-40/70T system offers similar capabilities to the Italian 40 mm Dardo close-in weapon system, thanks to L70 barrels. Dardo is also serving in the inventory of the Turkish Navy. Kaan is equipped with a stealth cupola to reduce the radar cross-section area of the vessel. The system is also lighter than its Italian equivalent.
40 mm close-in weapon systems offer better survivability to the platform thanks to their longer range and shell effectiveness. Solutions are also effective against asymmetrical threats from non-dangerous ranges to the vessel. Guns can also be employed against coastal targets, surface vessels and floating mines with a highly effective wide range of ammunition.
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小卒看倌
路人甲乙丙
  
Taiwan
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Posted - 01/07/2025 : 14:41:26
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Wiener, Friedrich (1987). The armies of the NATO nations: Organization, concept of war, weapons and equipment. Truppendienst Handbooks Volume 3. Vienna: Herold Publishers. pp. 524–525.
BAE AB買了原廠但產權還是瑞典,你想繞過不可能 這些國家先買授權生產再談自研這件事⋯⋯ |
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