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to be honest, from what US did to Australia's Collins class, Spanish SSK and Malaysian SSK project (USN and RAN provide the training), US did seriously try to assist Taiwan to get the submarine. It is just the short sighted KMT missed the chance because of the politics....
Now, even getting the F-16C/D is so difficult, I don't think the SSK will be easier.......
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Posted - 07/23/2010 :  06:52:34  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send Captain Picard a Private Message
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Originally posted by rockitten

to be honest, from what US did to Australia's Collins class, Spanish SSK and Malaysian SSK project (USN and RAN provide the training), US did seriously try to assist Taiwan to get the submarine. It is just the short sighted KMT missed the chance because of the politics....
Now, even getting the F-16C/D is so difficult, I don't think the SSK will be easier.......
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actually, it is exactly because KMT's behavior in the ­xÁÊ (I suppose most of us agree that °ê¿Ë do fxxked up Taiwan's best chance to get the SSK) and ³s§º's behavior that makes me look them down....




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