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dasha
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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  13:34:23  會員資料 Send dasha a Private Message  引言回覆
搜到的一串新聞,基本上就是西班牙漁船12艘被扣押,理由在於"福克蘭群島周邊是阿根廷神聖而不可分割的領土."所以英國的反應比西班牙還激烈......

http://www.google.com/search?q=福克蘭群島&hl=zh-TW&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=8_jeTujxD8fJmAXPyZ38BA&ved=0CLABEKgC&biw=1143&bih=684

現在的問題是,英國在島上的駐軍固然比30年前要強大,但他們的海軍卻比30年前還虛弱,雖然阿根廷也是比30年前虛弱,可是距離的優勢在阿根廷一方......

Bryan C
路人甲乙丙

USA
1455 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2011 :  16:27:29  會員資料  Visit Bryan C's Homepage Send Bryan C a Private Message  引言回覆
Guess Royal Navy needs the F-35B more urgently than Israel needs F-35A.....
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CITYTIGER
新手上路

115 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2011 :  19:01:04  會員資料 Send CITYTIGER a Private Message  引言回覆
英國皇家海軍實力是變弱了,但是英國佬不管在面子上或裡子,福克蘭群島他們丟不起.....
,倒是阿根廷經過上次兵敗的經驗之後,不知道有沒有記取教訓
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閒遊之人
我是老鳥

6811 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2011 :  19:05:08  會員資料 Send 閒遊之人 a Private Message  引言回覆
英國能靠打場仗來擴大內需
暫時讓景氣好些嗎?
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CITYTIGER
新手上路

115 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2011 :  19:45:32  會員資料 Send CITYTIGER a Private Message  引言回覆
quote:
Originally posted by 閒遊之人

英國能靠打場仗來擴大內需
暫時讓景氣好些嗎?


景氣好不好還不知道,但是英國失去福克蘭群島的控制權的話,很多船公司
可能就改向阿根廷繳交捕魷魚的特許費,這當中也包括台灣在內,更別提海
底可能有石油,就算雙方不開打,英國一旦在態度上向阿根廷示弱,政府的
民意支持度肯定下滑
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SK2
路人甲乙丙

2341 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2011 :  19:53:56  會員資料 Send SK2 a Private Message  引言回覆
However, the Brits now got at least 4 Eurofighters in the Falkland Islands...

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閒遊之人
我是老鳥

6811 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2011 :  20:03:43  會員資料 Send 閒遊之人 a Private Message  引言回覆
4個啥?
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hellyhappt
我是菜鳥

324 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2011 :  20:16:38  會員資料 Send hellyhappt a Private Message  引言回覆
Euro fighters
歐洲戰鬥機
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rockitten
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Australia
8191 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2011 :  22:59:17  會員資料 Send rockitten a Private Message  引言回覆
quote:
Originally posted by dasha

搜到的一串新聞,基本上就是西班牙漁船12艘被扣押,理由在於"福克蘭群島周邊是阿根廷神聖而不可分割的領土."所以英國的反應比西班牙還激烈......

現在的問題是,英國在島上的駐軍固然比30年前要強大,但他們的海軍卻比30年前還虛弱,雖然阿根廷也是比30年前虛弱,可是距離的優勢在阿根廷一方......


Argentina is trying to get Brazil involved or at least, try to get EU and US's attention.........

小貓不會作模型,小貓只愛玩模型;看似小貓玩模型,其實模型玩小貓:
A B 補土白膠條,樹脂改套蝕刻片;凹線凸線凹凸線,乾磨水磨銼刀磨;
水性油性消光漆,乾掃手掃噴槍掃;模型一盒三百幾,零件一堆三千幾;
多買多作進步多,買了不作口水多;花錢耗時傷精神,小貓是隻敗家喵。
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Bryan C
路人甲乙丙

USA
1455 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2011 :  02:45:31  會員資料  Visit Bryan C's Homepage Send Bryan C a Private Message  引言回覆
Time for Royal Navy to send a few nuclear subs down there for some needed patrols.....
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閒遊之人
我是老鳥

6811 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2011 :  23:23:47  會員資料 Send 閒遊之人 a Private Message  引言回覆
感覺上開戰發幾發對地導彈把福島機場炸了
就有好戲看了
EF-2K很威
但沒了機場就.....
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Bryan C
路人甲乙丙

USA
1455 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2011 :  16:01:15  會員資料  Visit Bryan C's Homepage Send Bryan C a Private Message  引言回覆
>>>感覺上開戰發幾發對地導彈把福島機場炸了

Don't think Argentina has any long range SSM. They might not even have any Exocet anti-ship missiles.....
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閒遊之人
我是老鳥

6811 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2011 :  19:26:42  會員資料 Send 閒遊之人 a Private Message  引言回覆
那還真是啥也沒有
這次阿根廷憑啥打................................
出來自爆的嗎....
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Bryan C
路人甲乙丙

USA
1455 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2011 :  02:34:41  會員資料  Visit Bryan C's Homepage Send Bryan C a Private Message  引言回覆
I think the 5 AM.39 were all used up on the last battle. Only anti-ship missiles they have left is ship launched MM.38. Don't remember Israel sell them any sort of air launched anti-ship missiles. So Argentina Navy only has those MM.38 Exocet ship launched anti-ship missiles to play with----more than 30+ years in age Exocet missile---which the solid rocket propellants might cracked 25 years ago.....
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Bryan C
路人甲乙丙

USA
1455 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2011 :  10:56:29  會員資料  Visit Bryan C's Homepage Send Bryan C a Private Message  引言回覆
For past 30 years, Argentine Air Force, FAA, only got 36 rebuilt A-4AR Fightinghawks from US in late 1990s---after US denied F-16A/B/C/D for years(worse than Taiwan/ROCAF)....

Naval Aviation still got 14 Dassault-Breguet Super Étendard in service but got no AM.39 Exocet. The 16 or so A-4Q Skyhawk retired in 1988, and their supposed replacement of rebuilt Israel IDF-AF A-4Hs couldn't be delivered due the embargo imposed by the United States after the war.

Well, for the near future the FAA expect to replace their 15 Mirage IIIs and Daggers with 12 Mirage F-1E in 2012(or French Air Force's surplus Mirage 2000C). Anything flare up, they might not get anything.....

Argentine Navy is now down to 4 Almirante Brown(MEKO 360H2) class destroyers, 6 Espora(MEKO 140A16) class light frigate/corvette, 3 Drummond(D'Estienne d'Orves/A69) class light corvette, and 3 Type 209/TR1700 SSK submarines. No battleship or aircraft carrier in service.
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dasha
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41801 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2011 :  13:50:29  會員資料 Send dasha a Private Message  引言回覆
突然想到,皇家海軍這次是變弱了,但他們今年才與法國簽訂協約,難不成可以看到Rafale出征南大西洋?
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Bryan C
路人甲乙丙

USA
1455 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2011 :  14:17:12  會員資料  Visit Bryan C's Homepage Send Bryan C a Private Message  引言回覆
Then Argentina going to be screwed---all their weapons and platforms are sourced from France and Germany now....

"Captain, our air search radar is showing snow, possible white nose jamming, source unknown, but possible from multiple Rafale M jamming. Our CIC computers are all down, possible virus infection come through the radar, or SATCOM. Our sonar screens are playing Pong by itself. And our surface search and navigation radars are showing we are in Death Sea. And our GPS showing we are in China....."

"Con, Weap. All weapons down. The MM.40 is showing self destruction countdown has started, and are leaking JP-8 fuel."

"Con, Engineering. All engines just died down, demanding a raise and health benefits."

"Captain to all stations. Anything else is working on this ship?"

Dead silence. Then.....

"This is the joint Royal Navy and French Navy Task Force Retake Falkland, Part Duex. We demand surrender of your ship immediately. Bring your best wines and food on board out on deck for the handover. And bring your women to the deck, ready for proper inspection...."
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慎.中野
我是老鳥

27929 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2012 :  12:13:56  會員資料 Send 慎.中野 a Private Message  引言回覆

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http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/12/2/5/n3503619.htm
威廉王子出差 展開首日勤務

【大紀元2月5日報導】(中央社倫敦4日法新電)英國國防部今天表示,威廉王子受派至福克蘭群島(Falkland Islands),且已展開搜救飛行員勤務,英國此次調派動作已嚴重觸怒阿根廷。

29歲的威廉王子是英國王位第2順位繼承人。他是英國皇家空軍(RAF)海王(Sea King)直升機飛行員,此次奉派至福克蘭群島屬例行勤務。

英調駐威廉王子到貧瘠的福克蘭群島6週,讓布宜諾斯艾利斯當局十分不滿。阿根廷稱福克蘭群島為該國領地,英國安排王室成員至該群島是「挑釁」。

英國防部表示,威廉王子駐派首日將參加勤務簡報,勤務內容包括救援擱淺漁民,運送病患至醫院,輸送物資到偏遠地區等。
(略)
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英國人使出了他們傳統的王牌,王室貴族,阿根廷人也不敢對威廉駐防的地方輕舉妄動吧。



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「我乃是根據個人一向仰賴的研究方法而得出結論。我的方法就是:道聽途說加上斷章取義,然後歸納推理,最後忘掉訊息來源,開始強詞奪理,堅持我所言就是既定事實。」
史考特.亞當斯,《呆伯特之黃鼠狼當道》
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