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LE323 |
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Bryan C |
Posted - 11/13/2011 : 11:57:09 Not to mention the weight going to make the pilot's head tilt forward and downward..... |
dasha |
Posted - 11/13/2011 : 11:24:00 HMD¥Ø«e¦b¹ï¦a¥ô°È¤WÁÙ¬O¤£¨¬,«á¦VÄá¼v¤§Ãþ´N§ó¤£¥Î»¡,§AÁ`¤£¯à§ë¼v¥X¨Óªº³£¬O¤@¬í«eªº¼v¹³§a? |
ian125 |
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blackknight |
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toga |
Posted - 09/19/2011 : 00:25:58 quote: Originally posted by LE323
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rockitten |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 01:23:13 quote: Originally posted by dasha
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that's why the future of dog-fight will be on UCAV..........
There is another kind of "aircraft" that need high-G : space shuttle, it is "high G" (20+) during ascending, and they are actually "½ö"¤U¨Ó at that phase because the vehicle is doing near 90 degree climb......
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dasha |
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Manfred |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 22:28:32 quote: Originally posted by rockitten
quote: Originally posted by LE323
quote: Originally posted by dasha
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well, the biggest "limit" for modern fighter design is the pilot's 9G limitation, so if the pilot can withstand 15+G, designer can easily improve the G limit of the aircraft.............. - And the extra 6G can help a fighter to evade missile.......
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rockitten |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 20:35:03 quote: Originally posted by LE323
quote: Originally posted by dasha
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well, the biggest "limit" for modern fighter design is the pilot's 9G limitation, so if the pilot can withstand 15+G, designer can easily improve the G limit of the aircraft.............. - And the extra 6G can help a fighter to evade missile.......
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LE323 |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 20:25:05 quote: Originally posted by dasha
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dasha |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 15:25:56 quote: Originally posted by TIGER
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TIGER |
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dasha |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 09:42:08 ¥b½öª×?wªº§a!³oºØ³]p§ÜG¤O¥i¥H»´©ö¿¼W,¥¿±ªº±¿n¤]¯àÁY¤p,°ÝÃD¬O,§A´X¥G¤£¥Î·Q¬Ý¨ì«á¤W¤è(¸£³U§á¤£¹L¥h),§ó¤£¥Î»¡«á¤è...... |
astroboy |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 21:03:38 ¥Dn¥ØªºÁÙ¬O°§C®yܪº°ª«×¡A¥[´î§ïµ½¤@¤U¨º¥i¼¦ªº¥[³t§a? |
cobrachen |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 20:59:34 ¦b¸ÕÅ窺¹Lµ{¤¤¡AÁ`¬On§âµLªk²Å¦X²{¹êªº³]p©ÎªÌ¬Oºc·Q³v¤@ªº±Æ°£¡A±Æ°£ªº¹Lµ{·íµM¤]¥]¬A¹ê»Úªº³]p©M¾Þ§@¡C³o¤£¬O½Ö²Âªº°ÝÃD¡C |
LE323 |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 20:49:11 ©Ò¥H¼w°ê¤H¬O²Â³J¶Ü |
Bryan C |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 18:41:15 You can't see anything out of the the plane, and lost your situation awareness.... |