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morningstar
路人甲乙丙

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Posted - 03/08/2011 :  20:12:59  會員資料 Send morningstar a Private Message  引言回覆
捷克軍裝備優良 並有部分土木工事保護
如果抵抗到底可造成德軍殺傷
政府如何控制民眾或軍隊不會違抗軍令 私自戰鬥
因為捷克人比較愛和平
迫於國際壓力
或者從來是德語民族的附庸比較習慣?

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Hatikvah bat shnot alpayim

張邁可
我是菜鳥

382 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2011 :  21:03:59  會員資料  Click to see 張邁可's MSN Messenger address Send 張邁可 a Private Message  引言回覆
以上皆非,我有個老師在研究捷克史,她的說法是:因為當時捷克崇尚民主自由、不搞種族歧視,所以當時軍隊中有三分之一是蘇台德區的日耳曼人……

也就是說這不是捷克政府抵不抵抗的問題,而是軍隊是否會聽政府的話和德軍開幹的問題。

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morningstar
路人甲乙丙

607 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2011 :  21:22:54  會員資料 Send morningstar a Private Message  引言回覆
據我所知的歷史以及wiki 捷克對待少數民族可能比波蘭略好
但算不上寬容 不搞種族歧視
Plans to expel the Sudeten Germans

The principle of “population transfer” of Germans was advocated in 1918-19 by the Foreign Minister of the new Czechoslovak State, but President Thomas Masaryk opposed it. At the Paris Peace Conference Harvard Professor Archibald Cary Coolidge submitted his report to the American Delegation proposing the separation of the Sudetenland from Bohemia and Moravia, since it appeared unwise to force 3.5 million Germans under Czech rule, in violation of the principle of self-determination (Alfred de Zayas, Nemesis at Potsdam, Routledge, London and Boston p. 22). Following the Munich Agreement of 1938 and the Occupation of Bohemia and Moravia by Hitler in March 1939, Edvard Beneš set out to convince the Allies during World War II that expulsion was the best solution. Almost as soon as German troops occupied the Sudetenland in October 1938, Edvard Beneš and later the Czechoslovak Government-in-Exile pursued a twofold policy: the restoration of Czechoslovakia to its pre-Munich boundaries and the removal, through a combination of minor border rectifications and population transfer, of the state’s German minority to restore the territorial integrity of state. Although the details changed along with British public and official opinion and pressure from Czech resistance groups, the broad goals of the Czechoslovak Government-in-Exile remained the same throughout the war.

The pre-war policy of minority protection was now seen as useless and counterproductive (and the minorities themselves were seen as the source of unrest and instability), because it led to the destruction of the democratic régime and the whole Czechoslovak state. Therefore the Czechoslovakian leaders[who?] made a decision to change the multiethnic character of the state to a state of 2 or 3 ethnicities (Czechs, Slovaks and initially also the Ruthenians). This goal was to be reached by the expulsion of the major part of minority members and the successive assimilation of the rest. Because almost all people of German and Magyar ethnicity gained German or Hungarian citizenship during the occupation of Czechoslovakia, the expulsion could be legalized as the banishment (German: Ausweisung) of the foreigners.[10]

On June 22, 1942, after plans for the expulsion of the Sudeten Germans had become known, Wenzel Jaksch (a Sudeten German Social Democrat in exile) wrote a letter to Edvard Beneš protesting the proposed plans.[11]

Initially only a few hundred thousand Sudeten Germans were to be affected, people who were perceived as being disloyal to Czechoslovakia and who, according to Beneš and Czech public opinion, had acted as Hitler's "fifth column." Due to escalation of German atrocities in occupied Czechoslovakia the demands of the Czechoslovak Government-in-Exile, Czech resistance groups and also the wide majority of the Czechs for expulsion included more and more Germans, with no individual investigation of inference of guilt on their part, the only exception being 244,000 ethnic German "anti-fascists" and those ethnic Germans crucial for industries who were allowed to remain in Czechoslovakia. In conclusion the Czechs and their government did not want Czechoslovakia to be burdened in future with a sizable German minority.


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Edited by - morningstar on 03/08/2011 21:29:54
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gdlz
路人甲乙丙

1255 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2011 :  23:32:51  會員資料 Send gdlz a Private Message  引言回覆
第一:捷克一直都是神聖羅馬帝國,德意志邦聯的成員,也一直是奧匈帝國的統治民族之一。雖是斯拉夫人可以說是半個日耳曼民族,與日耳曼人之間並沒有太多抵觸情緒。

第二:實力相差太遠,完全孤立無援,被英法出賣,還被擦鞋墊波蘭背後捅了一刀。(活該被蘇德瓜分)整個國土被德波匈三國同盟所包圍
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gdlz
路人甲乙丙

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Posted - 03/08/2011 :  23:35:59  會員資料 Send gdlz a Private Message  引言回覆
有種說法是波蘭才是發動二戰的策源地也是有一定道理的。
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LE323
路人甲乙丙

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Posted - 03/09/2011 :  19:42:22  會員資料 Send LE323 a Private Message  引言回覆
捷克斯洛伐克雖是一個小國
但其境內就有匈牙利、斯拉夫人、日耳曼等各民族
這些人可都是望著自己祖國匈牙利、德意志、俄羅斯
何況捷克人和斯洛伐克人不和也不是一天兩天的事

當初這個小國獨立明顯是一次大戰後列強未經深思熟慮的結果
在外有強敵環伺,內部各民族不能團結的情形下
不垮也難
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