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Tajikistan
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Manfred
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Canada
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Posted - 12/31/2011 :  22:42:43  ·|­û¸ê®Æ  Click to see Manfred's MSN Messenger address Send Manfred a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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MikeH
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toga
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Tajikistan
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Posted - 01/04/2012 :  11:05:41  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send toga a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Tajikistan
12781 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2012 :  23:41:44  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send toga a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Manfred
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Canada
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Posted - 01/05/2012 :  23:31:32  ·|­û¸ê®Æ  Click to see Manfred's MSN Messenger address Send Manfred a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  22:54:53  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send kumachan a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  23:28:49  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send toga a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 01/07/2012 :  15:50:45  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send su37 a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Originally posted by Bryan C

"ÀÆ¥ú¤k¯«" is something else and already "retired"/canned---it's something that's between SR-71/U-2 and what's-going-on-now-but-I-can't-say-in-Area-51.....



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