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mw2006y
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Posted - 06/27/2011 : 16:41:40
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blackknight
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Posted - 06/29/2011 : 02:40:19
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Manfred
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 02:26:51
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quote: Originally posted by emile
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Manfred
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 02:29:07
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 08:15:32
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quote: Originally posted by Manfred 99¦~¥_¬ù¨º»ò±j¤jªºªÅ¤¤¤O¶qªý¤î«nÁp·ùªº¸¾÷°_¸¤F¶Ü?
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dasha
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kumachan
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BlueWhaleMoon
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 00:35:32
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SleeplessPrometheus
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 00:47:42
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Bryan C
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 04:37:13
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Problem with attack helo with short range AAM to attack enemy helo/aircraft is that the attack helo doesn't have a radar to help track targets. Thermal sight with laser ranging doesn't really equal to a air search radar in performance. And in helo vs helo air combat, with possible nap of earth flying by both side, and helicopter's own performance and tactics that's unequal to aircraft, I think we might be going back to similar era of WW1 or WW2 air combat----when missile plays no role in air combat...... |
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MACOS8
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 04:56:14
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quote: Originally posted by Bryan C
Problem with attack helo with short range AAM to attack enemy helo/aircraft is that the attack helo doesn't have a radar to help track targets. Thermal sight with laser ranging doesn't really equal to a air search radar in performance. And in helo vs helo air combat, with possible nap of earth flying by both side, and helicopter's own performance and tactics that's unequal to aircraft, I think we might be going back to similar era of WW1 or WW2 air combat----when missile plays no role in air combat......
Not really.. It also can be similar to the situation when GAR-8 first enter to the service. |
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 10:21:30
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quote: Originally posted by SleeplessPrometheus
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SleeplessPrometheus
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 10:53:47
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Snap
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 11:25:16
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SleeplessPrometheus
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 11:43:19
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dasha
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 12:53:18
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su37
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Taiwan
1337 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2011 : 14:24:20
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quote: Originally posted by dasha
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MACOS8
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3316 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2011 : 15:23:32
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dasha
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 15:35:37
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n¥h±Ð½d¬ÝªZ¾¹ªºÂê©w¥Ø¼Ð³t«×,AGM-65A/Bªºµo®g³t«×¨î¬O³Ì§C0.5¨ì³Ì°ª0.8Mach,¥Ø¼Ð³t«×¦b0~80km/hr¤§¶¡,¹³³oÓ´N¤£¾A¦Xª½¤É¾÷µo®g»P¥´ª½¤É¾÷,¦]¬°ª½¤É¾÷¸¤£¨ì³Ì§Cµo®g³t«×,¦Óª½¤É¾÷¤]«Ü®e©ö¥[³t¨ì80km/hr¥H¤W.AH-64·í¦~n¥Îªº¤p¤û,¬O§ï¨}¹Lªº,©Ò¥H¤~¯à¦b§C³t«×µo®g.GBU-39À³¸Ó¤]«ÜÃø¹ï¥Iª½¤É¾÷³oºØ³t«×ªº¥Ø¼Ð,°£«D¹³F-15E¸I¨ìªº¨º¦¸,©wÂI©ñ¤H¹s³t«×. ¦´Á¨Ó»¡IR AAM¤ñ¸û¾A¦X¥´ª½¤É¾÷,²{¦b¹p¹F¾É¦Vªº¥i¯à¤Ï¦Ó§ó¦X¾A,¦]¬°ª½¤É¾÷³£¤w¸g§ï¸Ë¤W»P¥L̦ۨ¤@¼Ë¶Qªº¦UÃþIRCM¸Ë¸m,³o¨ÇªF¦èˬO¦³§U©ó¼W¤jRCS...... |
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su37
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Taiwan
1337 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2011 : 16:29:59
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quote: Originally posted by dasha
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rockitten
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Australia
8191 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2011 : 18:27:21
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quote: Originally posted by su37
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it also depends on how good your ÁµøÁ®g¥\¯à is - but more and more radar has good resolution that can even has SAR mode, then........
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dasha
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41804 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2011 : 08:56:06
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quote: Originally posted by su37
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blackknight
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4339 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2011 : 09:23:13
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rockitten
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Australia
8191 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2011 : 09:31:46
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quote: Originally posted by blackknight ¨ä¹ê¤p§Ì¦b²q·Q¥¼¨Ó¹ïª½¤É¾÷³Ì¦³«Â¯Ùªº©wÁl¾÷¤£¤@©w¬O¨º¨Ç¼Q®g¾Ô¾÷ ¤Ï¦Ó¬O¨º¨ÇÁ³±Û¼ÕªºUCAV
At the moment, it us the other way around: many NATO's UAV were shot down by Mi-17's heavy machine guns during the air war on 1999
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