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Manfred
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  02:26:51  ·|­û¸ê®Æ  Click to see Manfred's MSN Messenger address Send Manfred a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Manfred
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  02:29:07  ·|­û¸ê®Æ  Click to see Manfred's MSN Messenger address Send Manfred a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Bryan C
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  04:37:13  ·|­û¸ê®Æ  Visit Bryan C's Homepage Send Bryan C a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
Problem with attack helo with short range AAM to attack enemy helo/aircraft is that the attack helo doesn't have a radar to help track targets. Thermal sight with laser ranging doesn't really equal to a air search radar in performance. And in helo vs helo air combat, with possible nap of earth flying by both side, and helicopter's own performance and tactics that's unequal to aircraft, I think we might be going back to similar era of WW1 or WW2 air combat----when missile plays no role in air combat......
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MACOS8
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  04:56:14  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send MACOS8 a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Problem with attack helo with short range AAM to attack enemy helo/aircraft is that the attack helo doesn't have a radar to help track targets. Thermal sight with laser ranging doesn't really equal to a air search radar in performance. And in helo vs helo air combat, with possible nap of earth flying by both side, and helicopter's own performance and tactics that's unequal to aircraft, I think we might be going back to similar era of WW1 or WW2 air combat----when missile plays no role in air combat......


Not really..
It also can be similar to the situation when GAR-8 first enter to the service.
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SleeplessPrometheus
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dasha
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  12:53:18  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send dasha a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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su37
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Taiwan
1337 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2011 :  14:24:20  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send su37 a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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MACOS8
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dasha
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  15:35:37  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send dasha a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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su37
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Taiwan
1337 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2011 :  16:29:59  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send su37 a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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rockitten
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Australia
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  18:27:21  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send rockitten a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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dasha
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Posted - 07/07/2011 :  08:56:06  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send dasha a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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blackknight
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Posted - 07/07/2011 :  09:23:13  ·|­û¸ê®Æ  Click to see blackknight's MSN Messenger address Send blackknight a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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rockitten
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Australia
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Posted - 07/07/2011 :  09:31:46  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send rockitten a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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At the moment, it us the other way around: many NATO's UAV were shot down by Mi-17's heavy machine guns during the air war on 1999

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