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Posted - 11/28/2012 :  21:01:14  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send gsx56840 a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Originally posted by Captain Picard

quote:
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rockitten
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Australia
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Posted - 11/28/2012 :  23:33:38  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send rockitten a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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and the size of the air-wing is constrained by the hanger size. Unless chi na is making super-carrier like USN, fighter like SU-33 is absolutely too big to have a decent size air group.........

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rockitten
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Australia
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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  23:32:20  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send rockitten a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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1. as long as it can do the job, who cares if it is really a tracker
2. Su-27/33 series are nearly twice the size of a F-18/F-35.........

3. The support of the ski-jump will occupy a lots of space.......

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Posted - 11/30/2012 :  13:03:59  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send dasha a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Taiwan
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